ACUTE AND CHRONIC PAIN IN THE BOVINE ANIMAL

[SADIE]

goodmorning already purecountry.

I don't prosecute I defend.

In the court room we pushed for many things in closing arguments. This was 16 months of research and yes you have to offer positive constructive options in closing arguments. We did that. What was missed at the hearing on June 15 was shared with the Cowards group so that they pushed for that at their hearing the following week of June 24.

The talk about spaying heifers is another example of Acute pain to the bovine animal. Thats why that was brought up. This proceedure was done first and then seeing the pain that incurred a small group of us with ranchers supporting the learning process on their animals helped us perfecet the KR spaying technigue which is not painful at all.

Good discussion Purecountry.

[burnt]

Grassfarmer, your reply indicates that you have not familiarized yourself with the particulars of the class action listed on the website.

Read it and see if you still think that the CFIA was not put on notice about the impending situation.

From a letter dated June 24, 1993, to Dr. Tom Dukes, Animal Disease Research Institute, Agriculture Canada, Nepean, On., these are the words of Dr. Ray Bradley, Central Veterinary Clinic,New Haw, Weybridge, Surrey -

"The handwriting is on the wall for any country without a ruminant feed ban and which has a chink in the armour. The chink can be imported cattle, imported feed, the presence of scrapie or BSE or sub-clinical forms of these diseases. Our experience should be ( but regrettably is not always) a salutary reminder of lurking disasters."

Now tell me, grassfarmer, were Dr. Ray Bradley's words prophetic? Accurate? Or far-fetched and misdirected?

Well, it was only months after this letter was written that we had our first case - and it was a British import!

And still the government did virtually nothing to head off the mess that developed since then.

Had they immediately followed known and recommended protocol, things could be a lot different today.

[burnt]

Oops, sorry sadie for hijacking your thread. Things kinda got crossed up here. No more on this here.

[grassfarmer]

Burnt, I do have the benefit of actually living and knowing what happened in the UK experience of BSE. The recommendation you quoted was not the accepted British veterinary advice at that time - if it had been they could likely have got a head start on the introduction of their own enhanced feed ban which didn't come about until 1996 - 3 years after the quote you posted. If you dig around you could likely come up with a recommendation from Mark Purdey as to better preventative procedures dated around the same time - it wouldn't mean that was British veterinary protocol at that time though.

[SADIE]

Pure Country--I now have been in contact with Jerry Hewson, Jack Lawes, Dean Lawes and Bryon Mailer at the Provost Livestock Exchange. Information and pictures have been sent to that market by email and a package will be going out next week to that market also.

I understand this this market is one "test Market" for scanning in Alberta. JH had a great discussion with me on his experience seeing the scanner "reads" on those animals and the "no reads". The pictures of RFID failure---Allflex ---who has 90 % of the tag market share- has the one problem of the Yellow data rings seperation over time and falling out the front of the ear. The animals one can still see the Male backs when visually observing from the backs of the ear.----Another example of a non read.

The guys at the market have contacted the CCIA personnel about the "accumulation" of lost RFID eartags at the market and told CCIA to take them a deregister them themselves.

It was suggested to me to contact the ALBERTA AUCTION MARKET ASSOCIATION about this gathered information and pictures that has come from across the country as this case became known and proceeded towards the hearing. I am sure that PLE will forward the information themselves to that group.

I believe that sale day is still Friday so LIS should be present today. It will be around you and there will be discussion around coffee.

Later this fall the PLE encouraged me to stop in and requaint old friendships.
I originally thought your handle was B. Mailer. That is the only Brand Inspector I recall that I ever knew at the PLE. I had a long working relationship with the Mailers. That is why out of courtesy I wanted a discussion over all the information that is now out there.

Pure country---You have stated you have worked in the oil patch.

I too have had a "Hand" in working in the oil patch and pipelines. Some in the oil patch--meaning the pipeline oil ccompanies are not happy with my hand.
Talk to the landowners along the Enbrdge new Alberta Clipper project. We signed the SAPL/MPLA Enbridge settlement agreement on Oct 12/2007 bringing home the first ever "linear payment" along with many important issues of Crossing regulations, deeper pipeline and abandonment considerations on pipelines crossing agriculture land.

[littledoggie]

Maybe we should put the RFID tag in backwards so the female side is clearly visible.