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    #11
    I've been known to speed just a tad, charliep. But it's MY chosen risk.

    % of BSE in meat coming from offal is the Government's calculated risk it is willing to take with the public in order that money will be saved by utilizing offal instead of paying to dispose of it.

    Yes, well.

    The first question comes to mind is: is BSE contamination a risk that should be taken in the first place?

    Read the book, Dying for a Hamburger. The stats from an author coroner in Toronto, who slices brains as often as you eat eggs, should provide a more "hands on" glimpse of BSE in Canada than a 25 year old economist calculating the public's risk risk on a computer program model.

    Go to the library and order it, will you? January is a good time of year to read. Oxygen laden air could help you broaden your view. Pars

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      #12
      Perhaps you are right.

      In daily consumption of food, which will more likely have an impact on
      me - food born pathagins E Coli/salmonella or BSE? Which has killed
      more people - salmonella, Ecoli or CJD. I guess we could go into which
      death is more unpleasant but I suspect none are good way to go and
      death is death.

      I will bring closer to home. Mycotoxins/Ochratoxins are becoming more
      of a concern in cereal products. What is happening in the agricultural
      industry to deal with molds in cereal products introduced at the farm
      level?

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        #13
        Perhaps everything in food safety is process.

        [URL="http://www.foodnavigator-usa.com/On-your-radar/Organics/E.-coli-in-organics-depends-on-manure-treatment-say-scientists"]ecoli[/URL]

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          #14
          Pars
          I am a bit of a sceptic since I met
          a guy who had done lots of good research
          on herbicide resistance in wild oats.
          His funding had run out and was
          really desperate to find something
          someone would fund.
          He persuaded the government to buy
          him 400acres to study sustainable
          farming.He has never really come up with
          anything conclusive, learnt that last
          time,just more questions to keep the
          money coming.

          So does your brain slicing guy enjoy his
          work and have a family to feed ?
          "Dying for a burger" is a good title if
          you want it to sell.

          Are their motives any different than
          Monsanto's?

          How do we decide who we believe?

          Charlie must admit I have never been
          into bikes.
          4 wheels for me and front wheel drive
          too, good fun on our narrow bendy roads.

          Follow F1 motor racing too. How do those
          guys get back in the car after a big
          crash!!

          We all see risk differently including
          the scientists doing the research.

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            #15
            The book was co-authored. Dr. Murray Waldheim (ei or ie??my memory fails me)was the name of the chief pathologist at Toronto's largest hospital who wrote the book. Post mortems is what he does for a living, so I don't know what precipitated his reason for writing the book. But he really didn't mske the CFIA look very good, so perhaps it was a political exclamation. But his own observations were real life. It was loaned to me by a friend.I read it twice. Pars

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              #16
              Here is a link to book reviews for "Dying for a Hamburger". Likely at the local library.

              [URL="http://www.amazon.com/Dying-Hamburger-Processing-Epidemic-Alzheimers/dp/031234015X"]review[/URL]

              Lots of research on prions and the relationship with a number of issues. I think will agree a good thing.

              Will note the issues Alzheimers associations highlight as the best preventions are a healthy active lifestyle.

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                #17
                Then read the MILK book reviews. OMG

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                  #18
                  A member of my family serves in a professional capacity as a volunteer for an Altzheimer's Board of D.

                  Ten years from now, the REAL consequences will glare in every community across Canada because the sheer numbers will strike horror in even the stupidest deniers.

                  A sound investment is in permanently sealable stainless steel urns that will house the epidemic of the indestructable prions present in Grandmas' ashes.

                  You are what you eat. Pars

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                    #19
                    Sorry guys but you just got me into
                    reading reviews.

                    How can people get such different
                    opinion from the same book/news?

                    I am over sixty now more interested in
                    how I die not when.
                    My friend went out side for a cigarette
                    last year and never came back, 63 years
                    old.

                    Anurisium, smoked all his life, ate
                    drank and was merry. They say he could
                    have dropped dead at any time since he
                    was twenty.

                    In my view worrying about what might be
                    is far more dangerous than just living
                    the life fate throws you.

                    Man is good at solving problems crap at
                    predicting the future.

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