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    #11
    Really? Your really think this would EVER happen? Never happen. Nope, zero chance.

    After launching a campaign to get every NDP housewife and highschool student in Ontario convinced the small farmer and their food supply will end and they wil starve to text to MP's a generated letter, that organization wants survival at any cost and does not care about farmer rights and desires or fairness of any kind.

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      #12
      I was kind of amazed that so few were bidding. Like grassfarmer says "opportunity was knocking"!
      But then I think "okay...you wade in and some rotten deal like foot and mouth comes down the pipes...and presto!....right back to 2003! A lot of people pretty well lost faith that the government is going to do their job and take responsibilty for disease control and goofy trade actions, after living through the BSE gong show!
      Maybe it is prudent to be a little risk adverse?

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        #13
        Fool me once, shame on you.
        Fool me twice, shame on me???

        What's missing from the picture is confidence. We've become a lot like our parents who grew up in the Depression. My father in law was absolutely terrified of debt. Taking out a loan practically gave him nightmares.

        Security is a priority for a lot of people now, because we know first hand what it's like to have it all taken away. Rolling the dice is getting harder and harder to do, and still get a good night's sleep. As the prices get higher, instead of encouraging people to buy, it's scaring them off because there is so much more at stake.

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          #14
          Landlords have just as much right to decide where THEIR grain is marketed as anyone else. I read all kinds of comments to the contrary but I don't understand why, after all it IS their grain too if the rental agreement is on a crop-share basis. On a cash rental basis the marketing decision would be negotiable IMHO.

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            #15
            So Wilagro, why as a farmer do I not
            have the right to chose for how much,
            where and when I sell my wheat?
            Why do others have the right to decide
            on my behalf.

            No one is going to change their
            position on this issue. The only
            certainty is that market choice is
            coming.

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              #16
              WOW just caught the last of the Rafter G sale sold 1500 head in 25 minutes.

              The fiew prices I heard were in the $1380 range.

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                #17
                What kato said.

                A lot of us cow guys aren't 29 years old any more. I find that there is a direct link between age and risk aversion.

                If my sons wanted to start up I think this would be the time.

                But the paycheck from the trades they work in makes risk look less attractive as well.

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                  #18
                  Did willnot just admit that farmers and landlords have a right to THEIR own grain? That would be a right to property wouldn't it? I can own my grain, but I can't sell it to who I want? WTF?

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                    #19
                    If a landlord cash rents they have choosen not to have a say in cropping and marketing decisions of the grain.

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                      #20
                      <i>"Landlords have just as much right to decide
                      where THEIR grain is marketed as anyone else."
                      </i>.
                      So landlords should have a right to decide where
                      their grain is marketed, but the farmers
                      shouldn't..........Now I understand the pro-single
                      desk position perfectly.

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