Bred cow prices

[ALLFARMER]

WOW just caught the last of the Rafter G sale sold 1500 head in 25 minutes.

The fiew prices I heard were in the $1380 range.

[burnt]

What kato said.

A lot of us cow guys aren't 29 years old any more. I find that there is a direct link between age and risk aversion.

If my sons wanted to start up I think this would be the time.

But the paycheck from the trades they work in makes risk look less attractive as well.

[silverback]

Did willnot just admit that farmers and landlords have a right to THEIR own grain? That would be a right to property wouldn't it? I can own my grain, but I can't sell it to who I want? WTF?

[newguy]

If a landlord cash rents they have choosen not to have a say in cropping and marketing decisions of the grain.

[FarmRanger]

<i>"Landlords have just as much right to decide
where THEIR grain is marketed as anyone else."
</i>.
So landlords should have a right to decide where
their grain is marketed, but the farmers
shouldn't..........Now I understand the pro-single
desk position perfectly.

[JDGreen]

We do not allow landlords to make ANY decisions whether or not it is a cash/crop/or modified rental agreement. Nothing I hate worse than someone else thinking they know whats good for my biz. Eerily similar to my feeling on the CWB.

[wd9]

Even the cash renting Landlord? Or just the crop share landlord?

[craig]

The standard chant in the debate is that farmers should decide. A landlord is not a farmer yet is continully grouped as a farmer when they tally the votes. At the same time those farmers outside the board do not get a vote. Does one have more of a vested interest in the outcome than the other. You could claim American's who do business in Canada have a vested interest in the outcome of a federal election but we don't allow them to vote in our election.

[gregpet]

I am not considered a farmers by the
CWB since i have not had a permit
book since 2007.

[kato]

1500 head in 25 minutes? How big were the lots?

[ALLFARMER]

Ya they got to lot 9 and they were done. So 9
divided by 1500 is 166. DLMS was
thanking/apologizing local buyers for comming
out and thanked them for bidding.

I did this at a small farm/acreage sale this
summer, they had 10 lots of new fence posts
high bidder on first bundle could take 1 bundle or
as many as they wanted, I took all 10 cost me
$3000 but I saved $500 from the local Ufa price
17% discount

[newguy]

Only the ones that are forced to sign a contract should be the ones allowed to vote. It may result in a few real farmers not being able to vote but would make it so an awfull lot of non farmers do not get to vote.

[ALLFARMER]

Reading over your post about fear of debt kato reminded me of my long past grandmother. Annie in 1985 had $50,000 in the bank and her pension paid her lodge expenses and gave her a little money left over. She worried for days if she had should spend a little and get her hair done? Thankfully mom assured her she should go for it!

[grassfarmer]

I'm not so surprised that bred heifers seem to be over supplied, the country seems to be full of them. Problem is two fold - one: many of the bigger scale cow/calf guys that are serious about staying in the business longterm rear their own replacement heifers.

and two: many of the heifers for sale are not the result of any type of breeding program - they are just heifers with 4 legs and a tail. A lot of the guys selling them are looking for an easy way to run cattle - buy female calves/yearlings and run them with a bull hoping to double their money, don't have the hassle of calving cows that way.
It's a changing dynamic just now for sure and I would think there will be way less heifers retained for replacements this winter by opportunists looking to sell them as breds.

[bucket]

As a new entity, the cwb will be able to deal in any crop. So maybe the vote should have included all farmers, not just those with a cwb number.

Maybe that is why the government used their mandate instead of the cwb select voters list.