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    #13
    I would really doubt that calf prices would go down,if they do go down then you will really see the cows head for slaughter.To many guys have lost so much money the last 7 years,that 1 good year won't change there mind to stay in cows.I for one don't understand why everyone thinks that this years calf price is so great,compare it to how everything else we buy has gone up in price.We aren't even close to keeping up with inflation.

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      #14
      If a person could see some stability in any market, whether beef or grain or whatever, you could plan for it? Normally beef cows would look like a fairly good bet right now? Supply and demand should be in effect. Less cows should mean higher prices.
      However, FS posted something a while back on the coming new free trade agreement with Columbia? If prices get too high here (or remain at the present price) will that beef enter our market? If I recall correctly, Columbia has 23 million cows and a very low cost structure. I realize the beef quality might not be that great but it could displace a lot of hamburger and manufacturing beef.
      Everyone has different circumstances and desires on how they want to live? Without a doubt there are a lot of older producers eager to exit the industry. Are there enough younger people willing to enter the industry?

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        #15
        There should be a clause in all FTA's that prevents entry of products produced at a lower standard than what is produced in Canada. If not, then maybe we should push for a COOL Canada.

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          #16
          devil's advocate here - We often lump
          producing nation's into a "standard of
          production" category, yet I suspect that
          there are many producers in third world
          countries that could give many of us in
          first world countries a run for our
          money as far as productivity and quality
          of product are concerned. Conversely we
          also have some first world producers who
          should probably be somewhat ashamed of
          the product they produce.
          I know there is a risk to FTA's as we
          often have the perception that the cost
          of production in other countries is much
          lower than here, but there is a HUGE
          range in cost structures in Canada and
          within specific ecoregions (eg: prairie
          producers). I know several producers
          who would be cost competitive with
          Brazil and lots more who wouldn't.
          I also prefer "marketing" approach as
          opposed to the shutting out approach of
          COOL. In other words, I am all for
          branding a product as produced in
          Canada, but only if it allows us to
          extract more value out of the
          marketplace, rather than preventing a
          competing product from entering.

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            #17
            You're so right smcgrath. My choice of words was perhaps a bit over reactive. I also believe that "marketing" is a better approach than "shutting out". But I do feel threatened by imports. Can/will "Product of Canada" remain competetive? How many more "standards" are we as producers going to have to implement on farm to remain in the game? The government acts on our behalf by implementing FTAs, but also against us by making us less competetive through over-regulation. Because of BSE? Is this the price we have to pay to remain in the game?

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