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    #21
    Don't want to squash anyones dreams or ambitions
    but 2012 is different to 2003/4/5. The commodity
    sector has changed dramatically in that time and we
    can't ignore that reality. In our own retailing
    business the margin we make over commodity price
    has shrunk from over $400 an animal to more like
    $200 an animal. We can't up the end price too much
    or demand suffers. This is a reality that will have to
    be faced by any start up plant, its a price squeeze
    that will make success this time around many times
    more difficult than it was the last time.
    I'm sticking with my beef retailing business for now
    because I know it works and I have a fair degree of
    control over all the elements. To invest in a
    "producer plant" at this stage holds no appeal for
    me personally.
    By the time it's all said and done, the plant is paid
    for, bank interest is paid, staff and management are
    hired and paid, marketers are paid, product is
    shipped half way around the world to wholesalers
    and retailers who still want their cut the cow/calf
    guy whose place the calf was born on will still be
    just a commodity player with very little control over
    their destiny. The premium that a participant could
    expect from such a marketing venture would be
    pretty small per animal in my opinion. It looks to me
    like recreating the commodity system over again.

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      #22
      Well said GF...that said I will gladly
      debate Randy, however I don't know what
      the outcome is suppose to bring besides
      entertainment... that said I would much
      rather spend my time entertaining my
      kids camping in July than spending time
      agreeing to disagree. Randy get your
      plant and investors going.... get her
      done and I will be the the 1st to congratulate you for pulling the
      impossible of. Sorry but my summers are
      precious and I try not to wander too far
      from the ranch.

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        #23
        Not after a debate just an interesting conversation. Not to worry, your family trumps my entertainment for sure. My wish is for both of you to be highly successful both at home and abroad. It will be good for our industry.

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