The biggest spin doctor

[forage]

I really don't think most landowners really realize just how this practice may damage every damn aquifer we have in Alberta and just are we going to have water for our own personal use let alone for livestock. Wake up ranchers and speak up. At least some organizations are not afraid to speak up and I appreciate the efforts ASRG is doing. As I am working for one of the majors I would be punted out door if they knew I was even posting on this site. But I know damn well in a couple years when I have my place paid for I won't have to silenced . So those of you who don't have a ball and chain arround their neck stand up for your rights to have safe and reliable water scourcs.

[gaucho]

The biggest spin doctor

This website came across my email today .. its amazing to see what you get when you combine herbicide company / agribusiness marketing dollars & the idea of feeding the world. If anyone knows how to put up their video links please do so... I haven't figured it out... while your watching have a good look at their idea of healthy riparian areas and their ideas that they are environmentalist by reducing soil erosion by 69%... I did not see 100%. Last but not least if they are so interested in feeding the world why is the US now using 60% of corn for ethanol.. are they trying to get the world drunk?
http://www.trueenvironmentalists.com/

[forage]

Thought maybe you were going to say the ERCB or ABP so much for another spin doctor

[kato]

Let's try this...

[grassfarmer]

Yep, great sustainability they've got built into their
model. Go post it on the commodity forum now
and see the response you get - I bet they'll
swallow it hook line and sinker.

[gaucho]

Go ahead GF... I'll be right behind you

[grassfarmer]

And i'll be right behind kato because she knows
how to post videos.

[ASRG]

The language in our post is pretty strong. When we say ban, perhaps moratorium would be a better word?
Can hydro fracking be done safely? We really don't know because there just isn't enough scientific study done on this practice? Going by what's happened in Pennsylvania and Wyoming....it doesn't look very promising!
That is what we are asking for.......get it right before you do it....and if the science says it can't be done safely....then don't do it? I don't think that is too much to ask? After all it is our land, water, and health at stake.......not some fat cat sitting in an office in Calgary or Dallas?
What is scary is we have this completely incompetent regulator (ERCB) licensing everything that passes over their desk, without any kind of knowledge?
At a Synergy meeting at Eagle Hill(west of Olds) I asked a senior ERCB official this question:
"What happens to an old abandoned well drilled 60 years ago, with a weak and decaying cement plug, when you crank up the pressure during a hydro frack? What stops it from blowing that old well out?" (this is an area with a lot of high content H2S wells).
His answer " We would never hydro frack near an old well. We know exactly how far the frack will crack the formation"......yea, right!!!
At that time the facilitator grabbed the mike away from me.......before I could ask if they had any kind of a clue where all those old wells were! Like the ones that started leaking in the schoolyard at Calmar!
Instead she handed it to this old boy who wondered if the companies sponsoring the event were going to have any more baseball caps, as he got there late and they were all gone! That seemed to be the most popular topic of the night!

[grassfarmer]

An immediate moratorium may be a better request
and one that would not be out of line with the rest
of the worlds thinking? It seems no one is as
hung-ho on this as AB and BC. I understand the
Americans are rather leery of it, Quebec has an
outright ban on it, the UK has a moratorium on it
after their unusual "mini earthquake" event and
the French have a ban on it after seeing the UK
experience. Here its a case of "bring it on, the
bigger the better, to hell with the consequences."

[ASRG]

Unfortunately Alberta is a petro state. Big oil owns the government.
If you ever get a chance to hear Andrew Nikiforuk talk about how a petro state operates, it isn't hard to see the attitude within the government.
Bulgaria BANNED hydro fracking last week.....Bulgaria gets it better than our geniuses in Edmonton!

[rkaiser]

How do the farmers get caught up in this stuff? Farmgate profits I guess.

The hope word really tugs at the heart hey..LOL

[kato]

Go to the bottom of the video.
Click on "share".
Then click on "embed".
A box with an address shows up.
Copy it.
Paste it here.

Ta Da!!

[charly08]

I think this situation needs to be looked into before it gets out of hand.I found videos on you tube about hydraulic fracturing and its pretty crazy what they are doing.In my searches i came across coments saying that exxon has stopped their program.I also came across some info on a documentary by Josh Fox called "Gasland" which i will definitely check out.Here is a link to the trailer http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dZe1AeH0Qz8

[forage]

The ASRG has asked the government to put a stop to his practice but once again we are controlled by the oil & gas industry. We have to get the government out of bed with this money rich lobby group before there well be any significant change to do what is right.
Maybe instead of giving multiple billions of dollars to the oil & gas companies they could provide a loan quarntee to Randy's cause of a few slaughter plants.

[GaryE]

If you look at this spin from a "city slicker" perspective it's fantastic, positive and the underlying message is hope for the future.
We could learn a lot from this type of marketing. Who is our target market and what do they want to hear...it's not a plate with a sizzling 16oz steak. Instead of spending millions to change the legislation in a foreign country that doesn't care about the court dictate, spend it on positive advertising and attributes that we all aspire to as stewards of the land.