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    #21
    My previous post may have sounded
    pessimistic, and it was not intended
    that way. It was more a case of I can
    readily see why you would not expand the
    cowherd. As for the grain farming
    investment, most grain farms are already
    parts of the arms race and their
    equipment can readily handle more acres
    (making it cheaper for the whole farm).
    The addition of cows requires more
    capital, not less.
    Grain farming is riskier but the risk
    management products are also a lot
    better in my estimation.
    For those that know me I am generally
    always an optimist and we continue to
    work on cowherd expansion and
    improvement. We have taken some licks
    the last few years on different
    ventures, but our costs today are at
    least 50% lower than they were in 2003,
    our cow herd is bigger, and the overall
    quality is better. We are also starting
    more diversification out of the
    commodity marketplace. Things are
    pretty exciting in the beef business
    around here.

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      #22
      S76 where are you getting your fuel,electricity,machinery,land tax,rent,labor,insurance,vet supplies, cheaper than they were 10 years ago???

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        #23
        Profarmer, the amount of fuel, electricity, machinary, and labour used PER cow, should all be down today compared to 10 years ago in order to maintain margins.

        I think the cow herd will expand, but at a slower rate than the prices suggest, due to all the reasons mentioned above. We have land to put more cows back onto.

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          #24
          Just to clarify. Where I said "we" I meant our farm.

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            #25
            PF - our cow numbers are up, our fuel use is WAY down, and our vet costs are under control. Our
            veterinary costs are primarily vaccine only. These make big differences. 10 years ago we were
            probably feeding cows 180 days or more. Now we are closer to 30 or less. We put up all our own feed
            for roughly 200 cows and 150 backgrounders, and our fuel bill is right around $50 per cow per year
            (backgrounders would be free) (I am expecting lower in 2012 as we didn't push a lot of snow).
            We own less than $40,000 in farm equipment and have nearly 0 depreciation as a result. We are also
            much more productive as we continually improve our grazing systems. We are typically taking 75 AUGD
            off our tame pasture that was seeded 25 years ago, and pulling 160 AUGD on our swath grazing with no
            inputs other than cultivation, seed and cutting. This drives our costs WAY down.
            Some costs such as electricity are up a bunch (January will be more than our entire winter diesel
            bill), but we are working on plans to change that as well. We track our labour, and we currently work
            less and net more than we did 10 years ago.
            I am not tooting our horn, just saying that we employ a lot of different solutions to problem solving
            around here. We share a lot of the same frustrations over costs/value/etc. but we are 100% dedicated
            to cost control while still adding value, and we have a family history of being adaptive and fairly
            cutting edge. Running faster hasn't worked here very well, so we now try to run smarter and be
            creative. We probably spend as much time reading and researching as we do checking cows.

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              #26
              Your numbers make sense, Sean. You have your ducks in a row....you'll make it.

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                #27
                Sean--you are certainly cutting edge inthe industry. And after meeting you in Saskatoon (2011)----young and with a young family----you got it made.

                Keep it up.

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                  #28
                  Sean: Just wondering how you are considering cutting your electricity bill?

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                    #29
                    ASRG - a couple of things...
                    1. we are looking at our current
                    contract and options
                    2. we are swapping out light bulbs to
                    CFB and or LED bulbs (seems like a small
                    thing but it adds up
                    3. we are looking at alternative ways to
                    heat waterers
                    4. we are putting a $100 kijiji door on
                    our feedroom for the odd days we do have
                    to start a tractor (Bale grazing saves a
                    lot of block heater power)
                    5. we are putting switches on our
                    automatic yard lights
                    6. we are actively and aggressively
                    investigating going off the grid or grid
                    intertie power (challenge with inter-tie
                    is we still have to overcome the monthly
                    service charges)

                    We use a tool here that I came across in
                    E-Myth and it really works. If you are
                    serious about cutting costs, find out
                    your biggest cost and then declare war.
                    Combined with asking the "7 whys" the
                    results have been pretty good (if you
                    are doing something ask yourself why,
                    when you answer ask why to your answer.
                    If you can do that 7 times successively
                    it is probably a good practice to
                    continue).

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                      #30
                      So what does the $100 kijiji door do? I'm curious.

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