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    What do u pull your hay rake with?

    Had to head south for a few days when I get
    back my neighbor has his 500 horse quadtrac in
    my yard hooked on my rake!!! The JD 700 v
    rake is hydraulic drive so he had her turned down
    a bit from his 68' air drill. He said it worked lol. I
    smiled, he's got allot of heart. Unhooked it and
    went and got his 40 or 45 horse cashih lawn
    tractor. Flippin amazing how little diesel that thing
    used but no climate control, auto steer or satellite
    radio So what u pullin with?

    #2
    Massey 55 or MM U. Not too much I can use the old girls for.

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      #3
      Those little MMU's were a heck of a good tractor.
      Lots of power to weight and they purr like a
      kitten. Guys never went deaf running them.

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        #4
        I use a 1CP model (that's one cow-power) they can
        mow, rake and harvest without any diesel. 4WD, and
        they can go among trees and in among rocks and wet
        spots too.
        I can buy the hay I need for 3c/lb or less and I'm
        pretty sure no-one can maintain hay fields, replace
        the nutrients they are exporting and mechanically
        harvest it for 3c/lb.

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          #5
          I agree with GF... we have made 600 bales on rented ground that we cannot get cow on to and the rest we will buy... we will make some 2nd cut bales on fields the cows grazed once as the are now in the leases till November and then we will bale graze those with pairs till March... 3 cents a pound will buy all the hay landed that we can buy... besides if the hay is dry why rake it?

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            #6
            If no one can grow hay for less than 3 cents a pound, and that's what it sells for, why do they grow it? I would think it's only a matter of time before hay gets hard to find. Around here, it's the trucking that will kill you.

            But back to the topic. We've only used our rake once in the past ten years. That was after a windstorm. Hubby's theory is that if you rake it, and then it rains again, the hay is done. If it needs to be used, it will be pulled with the old Deutz. It uses hardly any fuel at all, but you need to take the windows off or you will cook in there! LOL

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              #7
              2 of the worst noxious weeds on the place came from imported hay. My goal is always year round grazing but my back up hay stack comes from my own ground. 3 cents won't always cut it here anyway, I've seen as much 5 as 3.

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                #8
                "If no one can grow hay for less than 3 cents a pound,
                and that's what it sells for, why do they grow it?"

                Because a lot of guys don't do their sums very
                carefully? Also it's seen as an easy option - older guys
                that sold off their cows but still have their hay
                machinery. They don't seem to mind sitting in a
                tractor all summer but wouldn't move an electric
                fence every day because it is "too much work".

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                  #9
                  70$/bale for hay here. Still have yet to get an
                  inch of rain.... TOTAL. When swaths are heavy
                  you rake to dry the bottom 1/2 other wise it sits
                  I'm the field another near week or so. When
                  swaths are skimpy you rake to get it up off the
                  ground. We watch our raking speed hence the
                  hydraulic drive rake. Also we near always only
                  rake when it's still quite tough to avoid shatter.

                  Our hay yielded 0.74 bales/ac, not bad
                  considering the rain volume.

                  Rain in the forecast....fingers crossed for a
                  second cut.


                  Looks like we will get some rain

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                    #10
                    Don't have a hay rack, never seen the need for one as I agree with Kato if it rains and you flip it now you are really in trouble. As far as buying for .03 landed in my yard....well some years you may get away with it but I would imagine out of a five year average you would be higher than .03/lb and our trucking costs are the big problem. We attended a HM course and they were saying that most of the(HM graduates) just buy there hay....works fine with me...I would have more time in the summer and less stress if I did't have to make hay...and maybe acutally use my camper at a lake other than at the father in laws farm..lol. I think that we are going to work toward this idea of buying the hay, but that may be a few years off.

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                      #11
                      We put up hay on shares on the
                      neighbour's ground. We cut rake and
                      bale and he trucks. Once it's rolled up
                      it is as good as delivered. Hay around
                      here often trades at 4 cents plus
                      trucking, if you can find it.
                      We pull our 1956 Massey wheel rake with
                      our 1981 4240 JD. The same thing we use
                      to pull the haybine and the baler (and
                      the cultivator and the seed drill).
                      Last year I built a new wheel for the
                      rake and discovered that AGCO classifies
                      it as "vintage". Two years ago folks
                      were searching for "vintage" as the big
                      new v rakes couldn't flip swaths very
                      well.

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                        #12
                        I seldom use a rake. Have an old beater I use every 2 or three years when absolutely necessary.
                        grassfarmer brings up a good topic: when you buy in hay, you are buying nutrients and that should be considered as a "value adding" kind of thing.

                        I'm one of those "old guys" who still has some crappy hayland and the old haying equipment. In reality buying hay in would make more sense. I should get the last 80 acres broke up this fall.

                        In the 2009 drought I had very little hay and sure wasn't going to spend the money to feed a bunch of cows. Baled up enough straw (my own crop share land) and fed whole barley (my own crop share). Priced at 1 cent/lb for straw (25 lb) and 8 cents/lb barley (10 lb) it worked out to $1.05/day/cow.

                        Just augured the barley into the tractor bucket and dribbled it out on top of the straw.

                        I don't think the cows ever looked better come spring. No calving problems and they bred back well.

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                          #13
                          A 270 british Leyland cheap on fuel has 3 pt hitch hard to find parts now except from finning and realy cant afford to shop there.

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