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    #11
    We use half rate of express sg with glyphosate every yr on peas to take out volunteer canola and broadleaf residual.


    As evidenced by crop pics we do not have s problem with it.


    Furrow mentioned often enough about heat this year. That's Heat not express damage

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      #12
      I keep several bulls in a 3 acre pen, for my own use and for sale, so I have strange individuals around as well as myself, with a bunch of horny beasts. Everything is as cool as a cucumber and they are just as nice to be around as my cows.

      Anything that has any kind of attitude goes. They aren't worth getting killed over, or worse yet, killing an innocent person/bystander.

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        #13
        Agree. We keep six or seven bulls at any one time. We have a zero tolerance policy when it comes to them being aggressive towards us. One was being loaded for pasture a couple of years ago, and put Hubby over the fence. Picked him up and tossed him. He did not go to pasture. He went to the auction. Bulls are too big and too powerful to put up with that kind of nonsense. Life's too short. Besides, we don't want that aggressive attitude being bred into our cows.

        That being said, if you get that many bulls in one place, every once in a while a fight will break out, and that's when it also gets dangerous. We don't blame them or cull them for that, mainly because the idiots don't even know we are there. But if we have a real fighter who does nothing but cause trouble he gets a ride to town too. There's no point in having three get hurt because one's a fighter. To say nothing of the property damage...

        Did your bull get aggressive with you? Or was he involved scrapping with another bull? How you deal with it will depend on what he was doing. If he's only a yearling, and he's already aggressive, he won't get better as he gets bigger.

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          #14
          It's not express sg. We have used half rate on peas since it came out even a year before on tests plots. We use half rate for peas never a problem. One note were black soil zone.

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            #15
            Group 2 resistance is way more of a problem than roundup resistance. No money in selling roundup so chem companies have to come up with new fancy more expensive names to do the same job.

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              #16
              The reason to use some of these herbys with glyph, is to
              a) Kill volunteer RR canola
              b)Provide residual control of some weeds like cleavers and volunteer canola
              c)Delay glyph resistance like they have in the US from using glyph alone so many times sequentially
              d) to sharpen the glyph on certain weeds it is weak on alone, like large cleavers, or really, large anything.


              I used heat at the high rate on my pre-seed peas this year. Worked awesome. Holds down cleavers and volunteer canola for quite some time.

              Express pro IS NOT plain Express. Pro has Ally in it, and has strong residual.

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                #17
                i guess we since we dont grow roundup ready and use 1L minimum of roundup not a problem for us.

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                  #18
                  FYI one liter of roundup will kill any cleaver i have ever come across.

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                    #19
                    Furrow, what ever became of those peas?

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                      #20
                      We often have overwintered cleavers that can take a lot of glyphosate. And the nature of the multiple flush cleavers, is such that something with residual is very important.

                      I use at least a litre of glyphosate, sometimes 2, depending on what is getting seeded. But I never use it alone.

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