Safety around bulls

[furrowtickler]

Cotton , 1120 ac

[furrowtickler]

BTW - thank you Klause !!

[Hopperbin]

Why would you use basagran and then select inseparate passes? Good luck getting that done.

[bgmb]

Klause using multiple modes at the same time creates super weeds resistant to multiple groups. Rotating herbicides is the key. Also using the same chemistry back to back like double spraying your rr canola is a big no no.

You need to rotate groups not throw 3 or 4 groups into a mixture if you want to stop resistance.

[bgmb]

Holy furrow if all your 1120 look that bad you will be looking for a big number. Good luck

[littledoggie]

I have to agree with kato that the demeanor of the bull will come through in the calves. We have bought a lot of our bulls from one particular breeder and have never had a mean bull from him. Then we tried another breeder, and had nothing but trouble with his bulls. Bulls need a lot of room when penned together, and that still doesn't guarantee no fighting. Bulls of the same age/size tend to fight. A young bull and an old bull will not fight. The young bull will submit to the older bull. If you have a flighty bull, never never try and do anything with them without a companion or two. And even then you have to be very patient and more clever then the bull.

grassfarmer, you must have the passive gene in your herd. It's what we strive for in our herd - anything that is head's up is gone.

[Cowcrazy100]

Thanks everyone!

I agree with a lot of what many of you said.

Dad asked me to go into his pen to move his salt/mineral block from near his water. I am not too sure but I got the impression that he thought we were “playing” which as you all understand is dangerous. My dad loves this bull for his confirmation qualities, and isn’t ready to get rid of him because of the context of the situation. We have always been very cautious around our bulls, but this is the first time that there has been a real issue (accept after our barn fire) when all the cattle were rattled up.

The nature of bulls and cows are important. Safety triumphs all!

[grassfarmer]

Not a passive gene, just training the same way you would a dog. This constant contact is what keeps them in their place in my opinion. I've had occasional customers buy our bulls, never go near them on foot just inspect them from a truck then they tell me the bull has gone bad and they can't get out of their truck without the bull getting mad. It's what they are acclimatized to - you've got to keep them trained to respect you.

[kato]

When we buy feeders we can always tell who was born in the pasture, and also who came from a place where nobody ever got out of the tractor at chore time.

If steers can be goofy from not having enough contact, you can times it by ten for a bull. If your Dad isn't going to sell this bull, then some training is in order, whole he is still young.

[grassfarmer]

"When we buy feeders we can always tell who was born in the pasture…"

That's easy they are the ones with the full length tails and ears, lol

[kato]

Actually they tend to bounce off fences! Lol not everyone handles their cattle..

[grassfarmer]

It really is about the handling, or lack of. Wildest cattle I ever saw arrived at an auction in England and the truck was literally rocking backing up to the pens. The auction must have known they were coming because they cleared everyone off the loading dock and alleys and when the truck door opened these thinks just came out like a rocket. Limo x bulls that looked like Spanish fighting bulls complete with big horns. They went down the alley and when they came to the first closed gate just "flowed" over it like water, some straight ahead, some into the side pens that already had cattle in them. I heard by the time they had them all sorted out and sold there was one bull with a broken leg and the owner had his hand gored by a horn. It was ridiculous they should never have been brought to an auction.

These cattle had been in a slatted floor shed being fed on a daily basis. How do you get your cattle that wild?