I think what farmers_son was doing here was trying to get us to think about our numbers and where they come from. I imagine he is preaching to the choir here on Agriville but it is always a good process non the less. That is why some of us are asking for testing and such because we are trying to stretch was is considered possible. Not withstanding the possible food safety aspect that we should not ignor.
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Back to the comment by ProFarmer about anything under 100hd is a hobby, some of the most profitable people I know have 50 or LESS. They market the beef at premium prices, and do very, very well. The only way I'd agree with your comment is if you're talking strictly about a farm that sells calves right off the cow - in other words, giving all their profit potential away.
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