Live Animal Test

[rkaiser]

Of course there are other challenges farmers_son. But listen to your own words. You have become the epitome of deception when it comes to BSE, just like the USDA, NCBA, ABP/CCA, etc etc. You hope it goes away and you continue to deny the only true way out.

BSE is not going away farmers_son. No matter how many times you ask Santa Claus and the Easter Bunny. All of the other problems that you mention are connected. Connected because we do not have the right to expand our market due to the above mentioned organisations holding us back. Product demand would correct parts of all of the issues you mention.

[Willowcreek]

I think a live test would be very beneficial to both countries...I know it would be to me- and my decision to ever buy Canadian cattle..

Because of my belief that Canada has a higher rate of BSE than the US- I will not/would not buy any seedstock or cattle period from Canada- until Canada can prove that the disease has been eradicated/or until a test is developed which gives assurances the live animals are not manifesting the disease...

I would not want to take the chance of being the one that imports a Canadian animal that is later found positive for the disease while in the US- and again negatively impacts by Billions of dollars the US cattle/beef industry, like the Washington cow did....

And I know many folks that feel the same way...

[jensend]

i believe scientists in israel developed a urine test for prion proteins. whatever came of that? did it go to testing and if so did it prove to be reliable?

[bsetester]

In answer to jensend,

Ruth Gabizon at Haddassah University in Israel was provided an opportunity some years ago to work with "Out Test Protocol" and she thought she had finally made it work. She attempted to perfect it at a time when it was still being developed and although the test was still in its early develpment stage it was still showing extreme potential as the "Live Animal Test" that all had been searching for.

However, she did not have the necessary antibody which is key to the entire protocol which binds to PrPsc and provides the definitive marker for TSE's. She was able to identify PrPc - the precurser identifier but was unable to repeat the test. In order to claim success, it is required that the initial protocol is able to be repeated not only by the lab that does the initial test, but any other lab which is given the data must also be able to complete the protocol. Since that day, she and her lab has never been able to replicate the test. The only lab that has been able to consistently do it is the United States National Prion Surveillance Laboratory in Cleveland, Ohio. After a further initial validation of two years of our test protocol, Cleveland has come to us and stated catagorically that they want to validate it for identifing PrPsc in the urine of not only cattle, but all potential TSE hosts including humans. It is this same world-class and leading prion research facility that has agreed to validate our test for all known TSE's. THe OIE in Paris has agreed to review all ongoing data-streams from Cleveland pursuent to validating the test. They were especially intrigued to know that our test can identify the presence of PrPsc in as little as one (1) ml of urine.

Contray to "farmers_son" a "Live Test" has indeed been found and yes, it does work and it is now proceeding toward validation and then to the OIE for final evaluation of all collected data from Cleveland. So you can see that the feeling in your gut may well be something else entirely. Perhaps those Christmas candies were a little off.

[Bez]

I am not a scientist. But I can honestly state I am hopeful this comes to pass. Time alone will tell.

It is an issue - despite those in most cattle orgs denying it.

But then again I am well known as a person who believes those cattle orgs at present are a waste of time, effort, money and often the very skin of the people running them.

High dollars do indeed affect us but the fact remains the U.S. sold a pile of beef to the world when their dollar was well up there.

Be that as it may, markets will open if the test comes to fruition.

Anyone thinking otherwise is smoking dope.

Deflect, divert and ignore -the usual cattle org way.

Bez