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Hearing 1700 to 1800$ for bred cows at Provost

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    #16
    Not as good a deal as cows bought at $900 in the fall
    of '09 - that was the real opportunity in this cattle
    cycle.

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      #17
      GF..I wish we would have been in a different stage in life to have been able to buy cows back in 2009 as compared today but hey one cow at a time right?

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        #18
        tweaker
        1800 pasture150 breeding50 salt min vet 50 winter feed 300 = Yardage 50 dep/deathloss@5% 90
        total 2490 _775 =1715 DId that cow make you any money?

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          #19
          Horse......you old sinner....where have you been hiding?

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            #20
            Had to go for therapy as I couldnt handle some of the hyprocity on here.

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              #21
              kind of sucks for those that sold good cows between 2003, and 2009 for less than $500

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                #22
                But for those exiting the industry it sure is good,

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                  #23
                  DogPatch like all good myths that one gets bigger
                  with each telling. How many good cows were sold for
                  less than $500 between 2003-2009? If we are still
                  talking bred cows I'd suggest very few. Quite a lot of
                  cull cows for sure but if they were bred cows they
                  weren't likely the quality of the ones making $1700 in
                  Allfarmers post.
                  I see I made a typo in my earlier post - I meant to say
                  $600 cows in 2009 not $900 cows. That was the
                  opportunity in this cattle cycle.

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                    #24
                    2009 was definitely the time to buy cows....if you had the feed? If I remember correctly both hay and straw were pretty brutal? That was a really dry year.
                    Correct me if I'm wrong but I remember hay at $160 bale and straw at $60?
                    I think I bought barley that year at $3.60/bu (actually my own barley) and baled up my own straw (which I priced at 1 cent a pound....see I can cook the numbers as well as anybody!) and got my cows fed through the winter relatively cheap!
                    I remember one guy saying it cost him $900 to get his cows through (had to start feeding in September)!

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                      #25
                      Years like 2009 can be stressful at the time but
                      looking back they are the times you really get paid for
                      your planning and management skills. Some guys
                      maybe did buy hay at $160/bale, plenty guys were
                      out of grass in September but by and large these are
                      guys that don't plan. Guys that graze pastures into
                      the dirt every year and start feeding in October will be
                      out of grass in September in a drought year - that's
                      not hard to forsee is it? A lot of the same guys think
                      hay is the only thing you can feed a cow hence they
                      chase the price beyond economic values.
                      We wintered cows on hailed out crop silage that cost
                      us $45 a ton and straw. But we only fed for 100 days
                      because we planned for the worst not the best case
                      scenario and if you do that you are nearly always
                      pleasantly surprised. We sold some young pairs in the
                      June before prices collapsed because we could see
                      what was likely coming in terms of grass growth. Part
                      of the deal was we got the calves back at weaning
                      time. We also early weaned and sold a draft of
                      teenage cull cows for $480 and replaced them with
                      some good young bred cows later in the fall for $600
                      once we were sure we had the feed and pasture lined
                      up.
                      In the last couple of years some of the guys that sold
                      cows at $600 are trying to buy back in at $1600. I
                      don't see how they will ever beat the cattle cycle
                      playing it in reverse.

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                        #26
                        I agree 100% with your analysis.
                        A good portion of the guys who sold out in 2009 are never coming back in.

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