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Hearing 1700 to 1800$ for bred cows at Provost

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    #21
    kind of sucks for those that sold good cows between 2003, and 2009 for less than $500

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      #22
      But for those exiting the industry it sure is good,

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        #23
        DogPatch like all good myths that one gets bigger
        with each telling. How many good cows were sold for
        less than $500 between 2003-2009? If we are still
        talking bred cows I'd suggest very few. Quite a lot of
        cull cows for sure but if they were bred cows they
        weren't likely the quality of the ones making $1700 in
        Allfarmers post.
        I see I made a typo in my earlier post - I meant to say
        $600 cows in 2009 not $900 cows. That was the
        opportunity in this cattle cycle.

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          #24
          2009 was definitely the time to buy cows....if you had the feed? If I remember correctly both hay and straw were pretty brutal? That was a really dry year.
          Correct me if I'm wrong but I remember hay at $160 bale and straw at $60?
          I think I bought barley that year at $3.60/bu (actually my own barley) and baled up my own straw (which I priced at 1 cent a pound....see I can cook the numbers as well as anybody!) and got my cows fed through the winter relatively cheap!
          I remember one guy saying it cost him $900 to get his cows through (had to start feeding in September)!

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            #25
            Years like 2009 can be stressful at the time but
            looking back they are the times you really get paid for
            your planning and management skills. Some guys
            maybe did buy hay at $160/bale, plenty guys were
            out of grass in September but by and large these are
            guys that don't plan. Guys that graze pastures into
            the dirt every year and start feeding in October will be
            out of grass in September in a drought year - that's
            not hard to forsee is it? A lot of the same guys think
            hay is the only thing you can feed a cow hence they
            chase the price beyond economic values.
            We wintered cows on hailed out crop silage that cost
            us $45 a ton and straw. But we only fed for 100 days
            because we planned for the worst not the best case
            scenario and if you do that you are nearly always
            pleasantly surprised. We sold some young pairs in the
            June before prices collapsed because we could see
            what was likely coming in terms of grass growth. Part
            of the deal was we got the calves back at weaning
            time. We also early weaned and sold a draft of
            teenage cull cows for $480 and replaced them with
            some good young bred cows later in the fall for $600
            once we were sure we had the feed and pasture lined
            up.
            In the last couple of years some of the guys that sold
            cows at $600 are trying to buy back in at $1600. I
            don't see how they will ever beat the cattle cycle
            playing it in reverse.

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              #26
              I agree 100% with your analysis.
              A good portion of the guys who sold out in 2009 are never coming back in.

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