Bad News

[grassfarmer]

ASRG, That is the intent of the price insurance - to
give the producer a downside price protection tool if
they choose to use it.

Randy I have seen no evidence to suggest the
administration costs are subsidized although there
seems to have been Governmental/industry joint
investment in the development of the program.

In my opinion there will always be a "commodity beef
industry". How much each producer want to be
involved in that is up to them.

You needn't preach to me about the quality of the
food we are supplying the consumer with. I'm actually
raising calves on my ranch, off my cows from which I
market the high quality, healthy grass-fed beef they
want. I invested my own time, money and brainpower
developing the market we now have. I've been doing
it for 10 years not just talking about it and waiting for
some windfall cash injection into the industry which
will magically transform everything overnight.

[rkaiser]

No waiting here GF. Participating and working at
it as long and hard as you. Just don't understand
your half hearted effort. Or maybe three
quarters. LOL

[cpallett]

Now kids, no point in jumping on Iain for being an opinionated pain in the butt. That just gives him something in common with me and everybody else here. Personally, I'm proud of it.

FYI Iain it is not the lawyer's decision how the opt-in/opt-out works for any class action. That is a matter in which the appropriate provincial statute applies. Given that the BSE class action is being run from Ontario, the Ontario Class Proceedings Act applies and if you fit the definition (Canadian resident who was farming cattle on May 20, 2003) you're in unless you actively choose to be out. Blame the Ontario legislature if you have to blame somebody.

FYI we now have a tentative trial date of September 2014.

[burnt]

Aaww jeepers Cameron, now I feel all guilty for being so inconsiderate of Grassfarmer's obvious shortcomings!

Had I known that he was such a commoner as us, I certainly should have expected less of him!

But seeing how easy it was for you to guilt me out like that, I'm doubly glad that you are working for us and not HMQ!!

[ASRG]

Well that's good news Cam? I'm sure the government will try to stall but it looks like they are slowly being dragged toward a judgement?

[rkaiser]

18 months to get them to mediate and payout 50 to 75% of the over 10 billion we got coming.

We an start planning on building plants all over Canada now and paying for them ourselves.

Thanks Uncle Sam and Aunty Brazil for your short say ---- we can handle it now.

[grassfarmer]

There is already a hotel named after that scenario in
Edmonton Randy - "Fantasyland"

[rkaiser]

Nicer place than the world that most humans live in --- Ego and Blame Land.

I have to say that I am proud of all that you have done for the industry GF. We need men like you to stir things up with yer red headed fire. Shit man -- if it were not for guys like "us" (is that okay to say "us" GF? LOL) we would not see the shift in retail stores in Calgary and other cities around the world to more and more naturally and consciously raised beef products. The gifts that we keep getting from the conventional industry keep giving us more room to grow. I call them the three educational "R's" at our stores and am telling our employees to simply tell the inquiring customer to look up the growing list of wonderful gifts the conventional beef industry gives us all.

Unless you go to the company website or maybe the ABP/CCA propaganda site, you will find tons of interesting information about "R"algro, "R"actopamine, and "R"umensin. Is it negative advertising for me to promote my three "R's" educational program for consumers; on products that conventional producers seem to be proud to use? ...LMAO


Is it a fantasy to see a Canadian beef industry led by producers who actually give a shit for the health and lives of consumers... I think not. Hell look at how Christoph and now NB have jumped on board. Soon to be followed by a "natural beef" line of products from our Brazilian multinational friends at JBS.

So what if it makes those of us who have been in the biz for 10 or 15 years work a little harder. All human structures are unstable and even the mighty fall sooner or later. In the long run, our goal was to see a choice for consumers and they certainly have that now. Or at least that was my goal --- other than making some money doing it. LOL

[cpallett]

Stayed there when I attended the Prionet conference. Interesting and creative hotel with a mall attached. Don't mind the comparison.

We all know how far you get in this world if you don't have the guts to try. If you do have the guts, you just never know for sure what might happen. You should know that rule of thumb well enough, Iain. Don't mind the extra motivation, but a bit like bringing coals to Newcastle.

[kato]

My Grandma was a sweet lady, but she had a plaque on her wall that said..

I hate to be a kicker
I always long for peace
But the wheel that does the squeaking
Is the one that gets the grease.

It's been in the back of my mind ever since. ;-)

If we don't think enough of our way of life to stand up for it, then we deserve to lose it. The beef producers of this country have made a lot of people a lot of money and contributed to our nation's trade surplus for a long time. It's time we got the respect we deserve.

I say we've earned it. And by standing up for what's right, then maybe we'll get it.

Even if we do bicker a bit along the way.