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    #11
    What scares me is the US revision to COOL. It has
    the makings to cripple sales to the US and create a
    pissing match with the usa.

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      #12
      We were just talking about this the other day.
      Beef useage has really gone down in the stores.
      We dont buy much beef anymore because the
      selection in the store doesnt seem as enticing.

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        #13
        WiltonRanch, I agree totally. That's the elephant in the room that no one seems to be talking about. This is a serious thing. IMHO it has the potential to knock the bottom right out of our prices.

        The American's response to an unfavourable ruling on a bad law is to replace it with a worse law. These people are not to be trusted, and not to be believed. And the lying will never end, not when a dollar is involved.

        Maybe this time around our numbers are small enough that we can just turn our eyes to other markets without the kind of damage that happened in 2003. The Americans are exporting a lot of what they take from us now, so I hope we have the smarts to just take those markets from them and sell our beef directly into them.

        But first, there need to be tariffs slapped on US beef and pork that are so high nobody here will import it. They seem to think they can just walk all over everybody and there will be no consequences.

        Personally I'm fed up with dealing with the U.S. There have to be more honest people to deal with out there somewhere.

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          #14
          I like your word enticing sumsmartguy.

          Complaining about Americans will get us no where. Especially since "we" and I need to use that term loosely, Americanize our cattle and beef every day.

          We can and will not only entice the consumer at the retail counter and in export markets including the USA, if we use our truly Canadian advantage and produce a truly Canadian branded product.

          A product that does taste different due to feed.

          A product that is easier to fatten due to our climate and the natural will of animals to create that fat in our Canadian environment.

          A product that could include a consumer friendly "ask and you will receive". Leave the USA to sell the masses a product the is laced with antibiotics, beta agonists, and growth promotants.

          A product that entices the consumer with size and the thing that made beef the ultimate unique protein that it is. A product that is healthy and tasty when eaten with the juices intact. A smaller thicker cut of magnificent succulent pleasure.

          MMMM cant you just taste it...LMAO

          Or we can just keep lap dogging to our American multinational packers and keep on complaining...

          Hugz Randall

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            #15
            rkaiser: You are absolutely right...keep up the efforts to promote our distinct quality beef.

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              #16
              So right rkaiser. We should take this situation and
              turn it in our favour. Remember Alberta oats back in
              the day. Its all about marketting what we have. The
              USA is still the path of least resistance. We offer a
              superior product into the states and brand it as
              proudly Canadian.

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                #17
                Problem with that WiltonRanch is that "we" do not
                control slaughter capacity. One US plant, one
                Brazilian - by ownership they get to call the shots of
                what product, what branding, what markets and at
                what price CDN beef sells. Until someone changes
                that dynamic its all just wishful thinking.

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                  #18
                  That is right grassfarmer. What I am more afraid of
                  is this industry shrinking to the point of no return.
                  Numbers that do not sustain a meaningful feeding
                  or packing industry. This cool thing will shave off
                  another few hundred thousand cows. Grain and
                  land remains high, and there will be no new entrants
                  to the business. Just the same old folks as usual
                  busting their butts. Problem is these folks arent
                  getting younger. So yes maybe previous post was
                  wishful thinking. I guess I just have to be the lowest
                  cost producer.

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                    #19
                    Why worry about large scale feeding and packing
                    capacity? Ranchers might do better without it.
                    Feed/graze fatten on family farm scale and get it
                    processed through a local plant.
                    As a business strategy the ramping up of production
                    to export into the global marketplace has been an
                    abject failure if you judge by the returns that accrue
                    to primary beef producers.
                    Time to try something different.

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                      #20
                      They say we are what we eat. Then are cows
                      what they eat, and is there a marketable idea
                      there, like organic, fruit flavoured feeds, milk-fed,
                      Green oats, sprouted lentil fed, whatever works,
                      market the H out of it, cowboys.

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