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    #11
    This all reminds me of a friend who told me that the reverse osmosis water treatment salesman had tested his deep well water and found in excess of 4000 ppm of aluminum. Of course a reverse osmosis unit was put in and the aluminum levels dropped to within drinking water standards.

    My reply was that he had a "goldmine" on his hands; and he should have considered selling water directly to a scrap metal recycler. Even better, would be to save the "aluminum laden wastewater" from the reverse osmosis unit as it obviously would have several times higher concentration. It would have to be well on its way to directly roll out as aircraft aluminum. And there must be cetain levels at which water would become saturated with aluminum ions and it might even precipitate out. Clearly something (or nothing) was going on.

    Sometimes we just have to not be gullable. There is nonsense that one can immediately challenge as being to good to be true or also beyond belief. At least demand that it sounds like there could be some truth before swallowing wild stories; testimonials and "facts" from those who know nothing about the subject they are claiming to be an expert on.
    The challenge is if individuals can tell the difference.

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      #12
      Here's the papers summary as it pertains to the claims made in the initial post that stated this thread.

      REFUTE AWAY

      My prediction is that only the mesenger; and science itself with feel an attack

      I'm driven to say that we are surrounded by complete asses. Apologies to that particular species; since they do not deserve to be placed in the same category.


      Quote:......
      Proximate, Fiber, and Mineral Composition. Compositional
      analysis results for corn grain and corn forage are
      presented in Tables 1 and 2, respectively. These results
      demonstrate that the levels of proximate components (protein,
      ash, carbohydrate), fiber (ADF and NDF), and minerals
      (calcium, copper, iron, magnesium, manganese, phosphorus, and
      zinc) in the grain and forage of corn event NK603 were
      comparable to those in the grain and forage of the nontransgenic
      control. In addition, these values were either within published
      literature ranges, within the tolerance interval determined for
      commercial varieties evaluated in the 1999 field trials, or within
      the range of historical conventional control values determined
      from previous studies. No measurable differences were observed
      for the content of fat or potassium in forage data from either
      1998 or 1999 field trials and the grain data from the 1998 field
      trials. Although the contents of fat and potassium in the grain
      of corn event NK603 were significantly different statistically
      from those in the nontransgenic control in data from 1999 field
      trials, the range of values for both analytes of corn event NK603
      fell within the 99% tolerance interval for the commercial
      varieties grown at the same field trials. These results demonstrate,
      with a confidence level of 95%, that the levels of fat and
      potassium for corn event NK603 were within the same population
      as those of nontransgenic, commercially available corn
      hybrids.

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        #13
        Lets follow the trail and see where the bull sit leads

        You start with the infowars.com website given in te initial post away up at the top of the thread.


        It gives the foolwing information.....
        QUOTE

        The owners of the blog MomsAcrossAmerica.com say the report was shared with them by De Dell Seed Company, Canada's only non-GMO corn seed supplier, which obtained it from a Minnesota-based agricultural company called ProfitPro. Overall, the paper found that non-GMO corn is 20 times richer in nutrition, energy and protein compared to GMO corn.





        Learn more: http://www.naturalnews.com/039864_GMO_corn_nutrients_minerals.html#ixzz2R3hx9 dUi

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          #14
          Now a couple of paragraphs further down (in the same report as above we run across this conflicting set of statements.
          QUOTE
          The disparity was even worse for magnesium, which tested at a mere 0.2 ppm in GMO corn. In non-GMO corn, however, magnesium levels were found to be 46 times higher than in non-GMO corn. Similar variances were observed for calcium, sulfur and manganese as well, with the contents of each being 12.4, 14, and seven times higher, respectively.

          UNQUOTE

          so for calcium there is a 12.4 times higher level in non-GMO corn. Yet it turns into a 140 times greater difference (and an unheard of 6000 plus parts per million) in the next itineration.



          Learn more: http://www.naturalnews.com/039864_GMO_corn_nutrients_minerals.html#ixzz2R3kOy gr2E...

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            #15
            Closer examination of the second line of that same quote above clearly says Quote....In non-GMO corn, however, magnesium levels were found to be 46 times higher than in non-GMO corn.

            Comparing non-GMO corn to non-GMO corn really proves that the author is having difficulty keeping the lies straight.


            Her's the full "summary" again. QUOTE
            The disparity was even worse for magnesium, which tested at a mere 0.2 ppm in GMO corn. In non-GMO corn, however, magnesium levels were found to be 46 times higher than in non-GMO corn. Similar variances were observed for calcium, sulfur and manganese as well, with the contents of each being 12.4, 14, and seven times higher, respectively.

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              #16
              And finally; literature searches do not reveal any 46 or 146 times differences between corn varieties for magnesium, calcium, let alone 3400 times energy content availability.

              When you get the horse up to a 100% sawdust diet; both the horse and the owner will notice the difference from a conventional diet. And I haven't heard such complaints from the feed industry about any glyposate resistant corn variety.

              Does anyone really think this story adds up?

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                #17
                Long on detail, short on credibility oneoff. In fact when you read the acknowledgements you could say the credibility of your test results is zero. Now go ask your fox how many chickens are left in the henhouse.

                "....these data support the conclusion
                that Roundup Ready corn event NK603 is as safe and nutritious
                as conventional varieties of corn on the market today.
                ACKNOWLEDGMENT
                We thank the Monsanto Field Agronomy group and the many
                field cooperators for conducting field trials and the Monsanto
                Product Characterization group for the molecular characterization
                of the test and control substances; Chantal Van Bellinghen
                of Monsanto Europe for managing the EU field trials; Monsanto’s
                Sample Preparation Group for preparing corn samples
                for analysis; Susan Riordan of Monsanto and Roy Sorbet of
                Certus International, Inc., for statistical expertise;"

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                  #18
                  Is infowars even for real? They claim the Newtown
                  massacre was an inside job to promote gun control.
                  So when whats his name says gm corn is bad I dont
                  believe him. The only thing I hate about this gm
                  thing is Monsanto and the others having us by the
                  nuts on our seed. The stuff is easy to grow, end of
                  story.

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                    #19
                    But it OK for grassfarmer to pick and choose data that Mom copies from a non-GMO seed supplier; who supposedly got it from an unnamed lab. And move some decimal places and then report extremmes out of the ranges ever found in any sample that anyone could even identify as being related to a corn species.

                    Roundup GM corn is widely grown and you tell me how many complaints from livestock feeders or feedmill have encountered nutritional problems with any corn supplies (mycotoxins ec excluded).

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                      #20
                      Roundup GM corn is widely grown and you tell me how many complaints from livestock feeders or feedmill have encountered nutritional problems with any corn supplies (mycotoxins etc. excluded).

                      Some people's ideas would fit in perfectly with Stone Age knowledge. And most likely they they are yearning for those Ages to return. And when todays society gets disrupted sufficiently; their view of the world will indeed be appropriate.

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