Non-GMO Corn Superior to GM Corn

[oneoff]

And if the anti GO side ever is forced to go on the defensive side; the arrgument will shift from Round-UP ready varieties supposed in question here.

And just like conventional canola varieties someone will be able to rightly claim that an entire fatty acid has all but disappeared from the old reliable seedstock.

And few ever understood the initial difference was between ****seed and canola. And I doubt if there have been any additional persons (in the general public) who have come to understand that difference since the initial plant breeding breaktrough.

[rkaiser]

wow---- this oneoff creature is an interesting one.

Stone age thinking? VS what kind one off?

Scientific? Is this your alma mater

Do you even know what science is?

Does your science only defend the various ways that man kind has thought its way into making money?

There is science behind the stone age thinkers who think about the health of soil, plants and animals, and consider money in the equation as well.

Obviously lots of thinking going on in that little head of yours oneoff. Same stuff that goes on in all of our little heads.

A couple simple scientific facts for you oneoff. Thoughts become things. And if you, or any human decides to remove some thought for a moment or two and allow universal thought to enter that little brain of yours, you would understand that universal thought puts the soil, the plants and all of us animals, before money and profit. Just kind of a natural order.

[rkaiser]

A new peer-reviewed scientific review paper has been released in the US stating that glyphosate-based herbicides such as Roundup are contributing to gastrointestinal disorders, obesity, diabetes, heart disease, depression, autism, infertility, cancer and Alzheimer’s disease.

The review paper states that “glyphosate enhances the damaging effects of …food borne chemical residues and environmental toxins. Negative impact on the body is insidious and manifests slowly over time as inflammation damages cellular systems throughout the body. Here, we show how interference with CYP enzymes acts synergistically with disruption of the biosynthesis of aromatic amino acids by gut bacteria, as well as impairment in serum sulfate transport. Consequences are most of the diseases and conditions associated with a Western diet, which include gastrointestinal disorders, obesity, diabetes, heart disease, depression, autism, infertility, cancer and Alzheimer’s disease.”

For the full study click here .

“The paper gives good arguments why it’s vital to oppose the recent capitulation by UK supermarkets to accepting products from animals raised on GM feed,” GM Watch stated.

Glyphosate (N-phosphonomethylglycine), the active ingredient in the herbicide Roundup®, is the main herbicide in use today in the United States, and increasingly throughout the World, in agriculture and in lawn maintenance, especially now that the patent has expired. 80% of genetically modified crops, particularly corn, soy, canola, cotton, sugar beets and most recently alfalfa, are specifically targeted towards the introduction of genes resistant to glyphosate, the so-called “Roundup Ready® feature”. In humans, only small amounts (~2%) of ingested glyphosate are metabolized to aminomethylphosphonic acid (AMPA), and the rest enters the blood stream and is eventually eliminated through the urine.

Studies have shown sharp increases in glyphosate contamination in streams in the Midwestern United States following the mid 1990s, pointing to its increasing role as the herbicide of choice in agriculture. A now common practice of crop desiccation through herbicide administration shortly before the harvest assures an increased glyphosate presence in food sources as well . The industry asserts that glyphosate is nearly nontoxic to mammals, and therefore it is not a problem if glyphosate is ingested in food sources. Acutely, it is claimed to be less toxic than aspirin. As a consequence, measurement of its presence in food is practically nonexistent.

A vocal minority of experts believes that glyphosate may instead be much more toxic than is claimed, although the effects are only apparent after a considerable time lapse. Thus, while short-term studies in rodents have shown no apparent toxicity, studies involving life-long exposure in rodents have demonstrated liver and kidney dysfunction and a greatly increased risk of cancer, with shortened lifespan

[oneoff]

With or without "universal thought" (whatever belief that represents); we would not enjoy the benefits that modern science has provided.

I vote to take away your cell phone and internet; and so deprive society of your drivel and false beliefs.

Nothing will be lost in that process.

[oneoff]

Here's another fellowsargument.....


This current study should underscore the point that a non-industry study is no more or less credible than an industry study. In fact, if you know how the government works, industry studies that are used as part of the GM approval process undergo far more scrutiny than non-industry studies. This French study is proof of the classic adage: garbage in, garbage out. Scientists with no skin in this game–none of the ones I quoted have industry ties–found it literally a piece of cra- . We have literally millions if not billions of data points–the consumption of GM foods over decades in the US and the consumption of GM grains by animals around the world for an equal period of time. There is ZERO evidence of any harm to humans or animals. That’s as controlled a long term experiment as you could hope to have. Drop the hysteria…please. Scientists are not evil people. Empirical data can be manipulated–we see that clearly in this current corrupted study–but scientists are not dumb–scientists can spot these kinds of transparent manipulations.

[oneoff]

We'll see whether this turns out to be a falsiied soil test report of some sort. I predict this nonsense won't stand on its own merits


Here's some more comments to consider before additional people confirm what they think they already know for sure

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The table, cited by bloggers and various anti-GM publications, has a number of problems. Without seeing the full report, neither we nor anyone can make claims about what it says or doesn’t say. But the table by itself suggests that – at a minimum – this is not the kind of study nutritionists and other scientists are familiar with, or the way they would report such a study themselves. Here are a few of the things that just don’t make sense:

The table shows no starch, protein, amino acid, oil or fiber analyses – and they are the main nutritional components of corn.
The values reported for GM corn are not even close to what is in the literature or in laboratory databases for last year’s corn crop.
The percent organic matter listed is an error. There is simply no way corn could have 1.2% or 2% organic matter as reported in the table. The number should be closer to 95%.
The table lists measurements for “Brix,” which is a measurement of sugar content and is used for products like molasses where one expects high amounts of sugar. Corn (GM and non-GM) typically has low amounts of sugar because most of the sugar has been converted to starch.
Nowhere in the world are energy requirements for animals measured in “ergs,” as the table says.
In most standard nutrition analyses, major minerals (like calcium, magnesium, potassium and phosphorus) are reported in units of percentages rather than parts per million, while minor minerals are reported in ppm. It’s not standard to see both reported in ppm.
The table being published by itself raises several questions, which – as a scientist looking at a study – I automatically ask. How many samples were taken? How were the samples collected? What are the genetic backgrounds of the corn samples used? Were the fields from which they were taken the same, adjacent, or different? Were they fertilized the same? The table also doesn’t indicate what the samples actually were – corn grain, the whole plant, corn silage, and so on.

The kind of table one would typically expect to see in a nutrition comparison is this one, published as supplementary information for a paper published by Nature. (In the supplementary information, scroll down to chart 20, page 50, of the pdf document.) Yes, the study was done by Monsanto, but it met the standard requirements for nutritional analyses and the results are reported in units that all nutritionists would recognize.

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The data presented is flawed, GMO's are going to solve world food shortages.

http://monsantoblog.com/2013/04/16/n...ike-the-other/

Damn and here I was getting excited for the new GMO corn diet; all the flavor, .03% of the calories.of regular.corn! Also, lmao @ergs... The only place I ever see those units is in really old physics textbooks

[oneoff]

This might be getting close to zooming in on the truth. Here's an intteresting thought to examinemore closely

James Gary 20.04.2013 22:31
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA! it amazes me how gullible people can be.

Thats a soil analysis, you morons. Hopefully the author of this study will explain how a living organism contains more zinc and magnesium than carbon LOL

[oneoff]

I detect the "believers" losing traction.

Here are some comments

Anonymous says:
April 19, 2013 at 6:25 am
Responding to previous pro-gmo supporters, if it is so good why should it not be labeled. Should we not have a choice?

Reply Anonymous says:
April 19, 2013 at 5:33 am
This is the scam of the year. Tell me more about a corn containing 6000-ish ppm calcium, 44 ppm phosphorus, 113 ppm potassium, 0.2 ppm sodium, etc, ?

In other words, even the data for the non-gmo corn doesn’t remotly match whit the nutrient profile of actual corn.

http: //en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maize#Comparison_to_other_staple_foods

But agrobusiness mass poisoners are very pleased with anti-gmo people going full retards.

Reply Anonymous says:
April 19, 2013 at 5:32 am
This is the scam of the year. Tell me more about a corn containing 6000-ish ppm calcium, 44 ppm phosphorus, 113 ppm potassium, 0.2 ppm sodium ?

In other words, even the data for the non-gmo corn doesn’t remotly match whit the nutrient profile of actual corn.

http: //en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maize#Comparison_to_other_staple_foods

But agrobusiness mass poisoners are very pleased with anti-gmo people going full retards.

Reply Anonymous says:
April 18, 2013 at 5:41 pm
It’s a hoax.

The “report” from Profit Pro is actually an advertisement to sell fertilizer, and a pitiful scientific fraud. The data is from a soil report, and has nothing to do with nutrition. The data is also *clearly* (poorly) falsified. For example, numbers that should add up to 100%, do not. There are quantities for which there exists no scientific method to measure, like “Anaerobic Biology” in parts per million.

Read my detailed analysis here: http : //thephysicspolice.blogspot.com/2013/04/dont-eat-soil.html

Reply ajkmsteph says:
April 17, 2013 at 10:08 pm
BTW the countries that ban the growth of GM corn actually import the grain and eat it. This includes the EU and Kenyan. Its nuts – they wouldn’t allow their farmers to benefit but allow their people to eat it. That’s because it is safe.

Reply Anonymous says:
April 18, 2013 at 7:57 am
What benefits?
Maybe you get benefits from Monsanto.
If it’s so safe to eat GMO why does the Monsanto cafe use organic only?
GMO = BAD

Reply Anonymous says:
April 18, 2013 at 4:15 pm
I’d say you drank the kool-aid but lets term it, ..you ate the corn.
lol

Reply ajkmsteph says:
April 17, 2013 at 10:06 pm
This is of course a fraud. These analyses are done as part of the regulatory package that is submitted fro gov approval usually in US, Japan, S Korea and Europe and has been approved as equivalent to non-GM corn. You have to take many samples the Gm and non-Gm plants grown in the same field and with the same genetics for both except for the GM trait. There are significant differences between identical corn grown in different fields and even different parts of the same field. The only WAR here is against the truth. Stop printing made up stories – I can get that in the movies

Reply Anonymous says:
April 17, 2013 at 6:42 pm
This article is a FAKE. Infowars…come on…do your homework! Stop making those of us who care about GMO’s look like idiots! I posted this article today only to have (thankfully) a friend point out it’s a fraud…made me look like a real asshole, and an idiot for supporting you and backing you guys up.

Reply Anonymous says:
April 17, 2013 at 1:18 pm
where’s the name of the company/entity who made this chart? or was this just made up out of thin air? c’mon, you guys are usually good with your sources!

Reply welovetheUSA says:
April 17, 2013 at 10:35 am
We know from other countries who were forced to use this type of corn seeds have banned Monsanto from their countries, it could take 15 years for their destroyed soil to recover. I will not eat this corn period, everything this company has done to get this in our land, is disgusting. People who eat fast food, packaged food will have the burdens of this product, this generation and the last will live 20 years less than their parents as it stands now.

Reply Anonymous says:
April 17, 2013 at 5:32 am
No references on this article to a single reputable source, in fact no references at all. point made, full of shit. A very good friend of mine who is a MSc in microbiology tells me he would rather his food glowed green than have shed loads of carcinogenic bacteria growing on it.

Reply Anonymous says:
April 17, 2013 at 1:14 am
Wrong on this one infowars, that study is s*** though I’m sure GM food cannot compare to good old fashioned natural food; natural food just isn’t as economically viable.

Reply Anonymous says:
April 17, 2013 at 4:01 pm
so save a buck and buy quick grow and cheap gm..then spend that saved buck on ways and means to rebalance your health..

Reply Francis Marion says:
April 17, 2013 at 1:02 am
So GMO corn is tantamount to plastic fake food which has not only
extremely low to no food value but is POISONOUS to humans and
animals alike.

PERFECT STARVATION VEHICLE to fulfill the Globalist dream of
6.5 BILLION DEAD OF PESTILENCE & DISEASE.

Reply Anonymous says:
April 16, 2013 at 9:43 pm
Human experimentation continues… anyone going to shoot the zombie lord in the head?

Reply Anonymous says:
April 16, 2013 at 7:55 pm
Corny article!

Reply Anonymous says:
April 16, 2013 at 8:50 pm
Is there even a kernel of truth in this story?

Reply

[oneoff]

STAPLE: Maize / Corn[A] Rice[B] Wheat[C] Potato[D] Cassava[E] Soybean (Green)[F] Sweet potato[G] Sorghum[H] Yam[Y] Plantain[Z]
Component (per 100g portion) Amount Amount Amount Amount Amount Amount Amount Amount Amount Amount
Water (g) 76 12 11 79 60 68 77 9 70 65
Energy (kJ) 360 1528 1419 322 670 615 360 1419 494 511
Protein (g) 3.2 7.1 13.7 2.0 1.4 13.0 1.6 11.3 1.5 1.3
Fat (g) 1.18 0.66 2.47 0.09 0.28 6.8 0.05 3.3 0.17 0.37
Carbohydrates (g) 19 80 71 17 38 11 20 75 28 32
Fiber (g) 2.7 1.3 10.7 2.2 1.8 4.2 3 6.3 4.1 2.3
Sugar (g) 3.22 0.12 0 0.78 1.7 0 4.18 0 0.5 15
Calcium (mg) 2 28 34 12 16 197 30 28 17 3
Iron (mg) 0.52 4.31 3.52 0.78 0.27 3.55 0.61 4.4 0.54 0.6
Magnesium (mg) 37 25 144 23 21 65 25 0 21 37
Phosphorus (mg) 89 115 508 57 27 194 47 287 55 34
Potassium (mg) 270 115 431 421 271 620 337 350 816 499
Sodium (mg) 15 5 2 6 14 15 55 6 9 4
Zinc (mg) 0.45 1.09 4.16 0.29 0.34 0.99 0.3 0 0.24 0.14
Copper (mg) 0.05 0.22 0.55 0.11 0.10 0.13 0.15 - 0.18 0.08
Manganese (mg) 0.16 1.09 3.01 0.15 0.38 0.55 0.26 - 0.40 -
Selenium (mcg) 0.6 15.1 89.4 0.3 0.7 1.5 0.6 0 0.7 1.5
Vitamin C (mg) 6.8 0 0 19.7 20.6 29 2.4 0 17.1 18.4
Thiamin (mg) 0.20 0.58 0.42 0.08 0.09 0.44 0.08 0.24 0.11 0.05
Riboflavin (mg) 0.06 0.05 0.12 0.03 0.05 0.18 0.06 0.14 0.03 0.05
Niacin (mg) 1.70 4.19 6.74 1.05 0.85 1.65 0.56 2.93 0.55 0.69
Pantothenic acid (mg) 0.76 1.01 0.94 0.30 0.11 0.15 0.80 - 0.31 0.26
Vitamin B6 (mg) 0.06 0.16 0.42 0.30 0.09 0.07 0.21 - 0.29 0.30
Folate Total (mcg) 46 231 43 16 27 165 11 0 23 22
Vitamin A (IU) 208 0 0 2 13 180 14187 0 138 1127
Vitamin E, alpha-tocopherol (mg) 0.07 0.11 0 0.01 0.19 0 0.26 0 0.39 0.14
Vitamin K (mcg) 0.3 0.1 0 1.9 1.9 0 1.8 0 2.6 0.7
Beta-carotene (mcg) 52 0 0 1 8 0 8509 0 83 457
Lutein zeazanthin (mcg) 764 0 0 8 0 0 0 0 0 30
Saturated fatty acids (g) 0.18 0.18 0.45 0.03 0.07 0.79 0.02 0.46 0.04 0.14
Monounsaturated fatty acids (g) 0.35 0.21 0.34 0.00 0.08 1.28 0.00 0.99 0.01 0.03
Polyunsaturated fatty acids (g) 0.56 0.18 0.98 0.04 0.05 3.20 0.01 1.37 0.08 0.07
A corn, sweet, yellow, raw B rice, white, long-grain, regular, raw
C wheat, durum D potato, flesh and skin, raw
E cassava, raw F soybeans, green, raw
G sweet potato, raw, unprepared H sorghum, raw
Y yam, raw Z plantains, raw


TAPLE: Maize / Corn[A] Rice[B] Wheat[C] Potato[D] Cassava[E] Soybean (Green)[F] Sweet potato[G] Sorghum[H] Yam[Y] Plantain[Z]
Component (per 100g portion) Amount Amount Amount Amount Amount Amount Amount Amount Amount Amount
Water (g) 76 12 11 79 60 68 77 9 70 65
Energy (kJ) 360 1528 1419 322 670 615 360 1419 494 511
Protein (g) 3.2 7.1 13.7 2.0 1.4 13.0 1.6 11.3 1.5 1.3
Fat (g) 1.18 0.66 2.47 0.09 0.28 6.8 0.05 3.3 0.17 0.37
Carbohydrates (g) 19 80 71 17 38 11 20 75 28 32
Fiber (g) 2.7 1.3 10.7 2.2 1.8 4.2 3 6.3 4.1 2.3
Sugar (g) 3.22 0.12 0 0.78 1.7 0 4.18 0 0.5 15
Calcium (mg) 2 28 34 12 16 197 30 28 17 3
Iron (mg) 0.52 4.31 3.52 0.78 0.27 3.55 0.61 4.4 0.54 0.6
Magnesium (mg) 37 25 144 23 21 65 25 0 21 37
Phosphorus (mg) 89 115 508 57 27 194 47 287 55 34
Potassium (mg) 270 115 431 421 271 620 337 350 816 499
Sodium (mg) 15 5 2 6 14 15 55 6 9 4
Zinc (mg) 0.45 1.09 4.16 0.29 0.34 0.99 0.3 0 0.24 0.14
Copper (mg) 0.05 0.22 0.55 0.11 0.10 0.13 0.15 - 0.18 0.08
Manganese (mg) 0.16 1.09 3.01 0.15 0.38 0.55 0.26 - 0.40 -
Selenium (mcg) 0.6 15.1 89.4 0.3 0.7 1.5 0.6 0 0.7 1.5
Vitamin C (mg) 6.8 0 0 19.7 20.6 29 2.4 0 17.1 18.4
Thiamin (mg) 0.20 0.58 0.42 0.08 0.09 0.44 0.08 0.24 0.11 0.05
Riboflavin (mg) 0.06 0.05 0.12 0.03 0.05 0.18 0.06 0.14 0.03 0.05
Niacin (mg) 1.70 4.19 6.74 1.05 0.85 1.65 0.56 2.93 0.55 0.69
Pantothenic acid (mg) 0.76 1.01 0.94 0.30 0.11 0.15 0.80 - 0.31 0.26
Vitamin B6 (mg) 0.06 0.16 0.42 0.30 0.09 0.07 0.21 - 0.29 0.30
Folate Total (mcg) 46 231 43 16 27 165 11 0 23 22
Vitamin A (IU) 208 0 0 2 13 180 14187 0 138 1127
Vitamin E, alpha-tocopherol (mg) 0.07 0.11 0 0.01 0.19 0 0.26 0 0.39 0.14
Vitamin K (mcg) 0.3 0.1 0 1.9 1.9 0 1.8 0 2.6 0.7
Beta-carotene (mcg) 52 0 0 1 8 0 8509 0 83 457
Lutein zeazanthin (mcg) 764 0 0 8 0 0 0 0 0 30
Saturated fatty acids (g) 0.18 0.18 0.45 0.03 0.07 0.79 0.02 0.46 0.04 0.14
Monounsaturated fatty acids (g) 0.35 0.21 0.34 0.00 0.08 1.28 0.00 0.99 0.01 0.03
Polyunsaturated fatty acids (g) 0.56 0.18 0.98 0.04 0.05 3.20 0.01 1.37 0.08 0.07
A corn, sweet, yellow, raw B rice, white, long-grain, regular, raw
C wheat, durum D potato, flesh and skin, raw
E cassava, raw F soybeans, green, raw
G sweet potato, raw, unprepared H sorghum, raw
Y yam, raw Z plantains, raw

[oneoff]

Corn/Maize nutritional contents are shown as the first number in each row in the chart in the last post

Does anyone have any reason to distrust this information from a Wikipedia source?

Does the reported non-GMO corn Calcium level even remotely fall near 2mg/100gm.?

If not; then what is wrong with the data posted all over as "gospel truth".

Are those responsible even remotely interested in the truth?
Will they ever apologize for the deception that has been caused? Or s it a matter of a blind agenda at any cost?

[grassfarmer]

Oh yeah, if it was on Wikipedia it's got to be true, lol.
I'm sure Monsanto has people whose full time job it is
to monitor and change information on Wikipedia as it
appears.

Here is another theory for you to investigate -
whether consumption of too much GMO material
causes you to spout voluminous bull-crap promoting
said GMOs.?

[oneoff]

Just once in your life; why not point exactly what the facts that support your conclusion. And when it doesn't make any sense; then be prepared for reasoned challenges.

People such as you pick and choose bull shit beliefs; but without not one shred of evidence to back it up; you attempt to convert and promote the nonsense...You need to be exposed for what you are.
And when this story is proven conclusively; I will do everthing to serve your nonsense right back to the perpetrators; supporters; apologists and enablers.