Bulls on self feeder or a TMR and raised properly!

[perfecho]

Cross those Angus with some Gelbvieh and watch those weaning weights rise....;-)
(yeah, ok...am a Gelbvieh breeder...)

[SCS]

We have 350 red and black Angus cows, 220 Purebreds, bulls raised in same pen and hfrs also, little difference in one over other, bulls now are on five pounds of grain and hfrs about one. The max our bulls get is one percent of body weight, hfrs may get three pounds and get gain on grass. Never get rich but can meet you on the street and ask how the bull is doing and never worry about liver or feet.

[WiltonRanch]

That's the way it should be. Good bulls sell themselves if you have a good rep. The shitty thing is you just about have to run the circuit and do what everyone else does to get known and it takes time. But when a guy gets a good name and customer base then he can get away from the madness. What kind of black sires are you using?