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    #25
    It is a fact that the USDA lifted restrictions on live fed beef. It is also a fact that RCALF proved some slipup in regulatory minutia in federal court to block the lifting of restrtictions. We can posture and guess and accuse about what we don't know, but the USDA is now going through the process of writing procedures that will stand up to the legal testing they are sure to be subjected. I am especially frustrate by the total US court system, but short of making me king, the cure is complex.

    The real juice behind maintaining a closed border (follow the money) is the packers. It looks like they're making too much money from the closed border. I'm afraid they have the ability to slow down the administrative process in the USDA, but if I could prove anything my kids would be fatherless. I agree to an extent that the new rules process may be developed slower than necessary. Let me give you an example of politics at play: a month ago we had a bad hurricane hit Florida so Bush goes downn there and promises aid. Kerry accused him of getting there so fast to be playing politics with a diseaster. Then a couple weeks later another hurricane hit Florida, and Bush went down there and promised more aid. This time Kerry charged Bush moved too slowly and didn't care about the misery in Florida. I think Kato is right, this rules deal may be completed after the first Tuesday in Nov.

    I'm not sure the current ban is exactly illegal since the USDA is in the evaluation phase. I disagree with the ban on matters of equity and merits, but I'm still not King.


    As for the nonfeed transmission of bse, I hope it is the feed because the US and Canada both have that one whipped. The organophosphates ingestion theory makes some sense when you factor the chronic wasting disease in elk and deer. I hope this is simply misdirrection because we could be mireed in bse issues for ever in this case.

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      #26
      RPKaiser, "I'm sure you will blast me for this post too, oxbow."


      While I reserve the rigt to disagree with your findings, your post is topical and thoughtful. I wouldn't "blast" a productive thinker as I value the perspective.

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        #27
        I don't hate the USA or the American people. I did say most of the world does. I mean hey they aren't flying airplanes into our skysc****rs?
        Do you ever wonder how come all these countries hate the US? Maybe its because they have this greedy tendency to screw everyone over and act like they have a devine right or something?
        I don't blame R-Calf or the USDA or Bush for our problems....they are just taking care of business! I do blame our totally useless government...for not taking care of business!
        America and Canada have a relationship that goes way beyond a few measily cows or packing houses. It is my true belief that some day we should be one country.
        I find it strange that America treats us like it does in these trade deals though? Don't you know we are practically your only friend in the world? We've gone along with just about all your crazy imperialistic crap over the years...now mind you the Iraq thing was just a wee bit too insane even for us! You screwed up big time on that one and it is shaping up to be another Vietnam!
        And what in the hell does Isreal have to do with the cow business in North America?

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          #28
          Spoken like a true Canadian Oxbow, civil yet slightly disobedient.
          I like that.

          I hope that you do not fear the Purdey theory for the wrong reasons. We may have this thing somewhat under control with removal of SRM's etc. but we are still following unproven science.
          Organophosphates are only a small part of Mark's theory and mainly concern the debacle in the UK. The main focus of his theory is the individual poisoning of animals caused by contamination of healthy prions by rouge metals.
          I am not an expert, but would suggest you take a look at Mark's page and another interesting page that I will post below.
          Have a great day.
          Even a disagreement in the good old High School days started with a few jabs and ended with a few beers.

          http://www.markpurdey.com/
          http://www.ela-europe.org/

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            #29
            I can agree that bse science is unproven, but Canada and the US have now tested many cows, and this would indicate the common held theories have merit. If everything under 8 years is safe, great. I do suspect when this issue is solved many many brain maladies will also be solved. As long as we're talking about unproven science, there is no proven link between bse and cjd, but neither of us would feed an aflicted cow to our families.



            Even a disagreement in the good old High School days started with a few jabs and ended with a few beers.

            Fair enough.

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