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    Unanswered Questions for Minister Ritz

    As Minister Ritz is standing behind the actions of those in CFIA, maybe he could answer the following questions
    1) When an outside audit conducted in May by Silliker Inc found that sampling of trim product was “inconsistent” with the standard, why was not a CAR (Corrective Action Request) issued?
    2) When a 2010 survey by FSIS indicated that the majority of the largest meat packers diverted or destroyed all trim in a batch or on a day if 5% of its tests were positive for E.coli O157:H7 and the HACCP plan for XL only diverted product if more than 10% of a batch tested positive or more than 20% of the days production was tainted, why did the CFIA approve this process.
    3) Were the 6 CAR’s issued in September to XL Foods Inc. the result of new infractions or were they missed previously by CFIA inspectors
    4) Were there any disciplinary actions given to CFIA employees?
    5) Between Sept 17th and Oct 12th, CFIA issued seventeen Health Hazard Alert updates, each of which has expanded the list of recalled products to the point where it is currently in excess of 1800 products and an estimated recall of 45 million pounds. What parameters did CFIA use in making these decisions?
    6) As seventeen Health Hazard Alerts is very high considering it was for the same event, did the CFIA give any thought or regard for the damage to the reputation of the beef industry?
    7) Is there any financial compensation for recalled product.
    8) Of the recalled shipments of beef, how many tests were positive for E.coli O157:H7
    9) What is the % of positives in relation to the total number of tests taken.
    10) Is it unusual to recall whole muscle cuts and why was it deemed necessary in this situation?
    11) Why did the CFIA not think it would be useful to require companies to analyze test results for the potentially fatal E.coli O157:H7
    12) Why were most of the CFIA at the plant not trained in Compliance Verification System (CVS)
    13) Does CFIA have the resources to deliver the training any faster and enough inspectors to relieve those away being trained?
    14) How long does it take to achieve CVS training and what is the cost per inspector?
    15) The Canadian Traceability System is comprised of two components that being on the live side the CCIA (Canadian Cattle Identification Agency) and CFPT (Canadian Food Product Traceability) pertaining to the processed food. Why is the CCIA mandatory and punishable by fines whereas the CFPT is voluntary and participation is much lower with no consequences of non-compliance.
    16) Following the discovery of BSE, the CFIA implemented a number of changes to the regulations that dramatically increased the cost of processing animals. None of the 19 cases that have been discovered since that time would have made the food chain even with regulations that were in place prior to BSE and yet we still have that cost which affects our competitiveness internationally. The food system in Canada is safe with an average of 440 E.coli cases / year. That is nearly half the rate of incidence in 2006. In a study of CDC statistics, 52% of E.coli infections could be traced to food and less than half were traced to ground beef. A third of the cases were traced to produce. If you want zero tolerance to E.coli, food will have to be sold either pre-cooked or canned. . Are there any suggested changes to our regulatory system that would increase our cost of production and guarantee a dramatic reduction in the potential of an outbreak like this from ever re-occurring.

    #2
    Good questions!

    I'd love to hear the answers. Odds that we'll get any???? Not good, if past experience is any indication.

    If there are no answers, then another question should be added to the list.

    .... "When are you going to resign?"

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      #3
      Very good questions Gary. The CFIA has to share some responsibility for this mess. According to ABP chair Doug Sawyer at Pollockville tonight even financial responsibility. But the buck does stop with Ritz.

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        #4
        Gary, those questions fully deserve an answer.

        Do you or anyone else have plans to present them to Ritz? He will not want to provide answers, but someone has to hold him accountable.

        If properly and persistently presented, they could be the catalyst that forces him into accountability. And then see where that leads . . .

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          #5
          Put the questions in the hands of the opposition parties. To the dismay of our CCA and everyone else in the industry, it seems these days, the opposition is blasting government in the parliament and keeping the story in the media headlines. Why not let them cut loose some more and clean house. And then we wil get some "conscious" politicians and bureaucrats to replace Ritz, the CFIA and whoever else is to blame for our state of affairs....LMAO

          Sorry Gary, just had to poke.

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            #6
            They are very good questions and should have answers, but don't hold your breath waiting for them. Ritz will be keeping a low profile for awhile....hoping like hell this will all blow over! The absolute last thing he will want is a real inquiry....might show what a complete incompetent idiot he is!

            Right now the rejection of the Petronas/Progress natural gas deal and subsequent drop in all Canadian oil & gas stocks will be the darling of the opposition parties! Usually a scandal only has about a weeks shelflife.

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              #7
              Not likely to get answers if the questions aren't asked. Thanks Gary.

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                #8
                There were a couple of points that I think need emphasizing These points were identified by Sheri but unfortunately they are not picked up by the general media
                1) The food system in Canada is safe with an average of 440 E.coli cases / year. That is nearly half the rate of incidence in 2006. In a study of CDC statistics, 52% of E.coli infections could be traced to food and less than half were traced to ground beef. A third of the cases were traced to produce. If you want zero tolerance to E.coli, food will have to be sold either pre-cooked or canned. We as an industry do not want to corner the market on the source of E.coli
                2) The CFIA iussued 17 Health Hazard Alerts over the same incident....They might as well be called the Canadian Fear Intensifying Agency. We need them to be pro-active not reactive.

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                  #9
                  I think you have to be careful with your first
                  point Gary. There is E.coli and there is the E.coli
                  0157 H7 strain which was involved in this case.
                  Which does the "half the rate of incidence in
                  2006" refer to?
                  I believe that this 0157 H7 strain can only
                  originate in the stomach of cattle even if
                  ultimately someone gets it by eating fruit
                  washed in water contaminated by cattle manure.
                  If that is true we already have cornered the
                  market on the source of this E.coli strain.

                  I sure don't want to see the cattle industry go
                  out of business because of this problem but
                  minimizing the potential hazard is not the right
                  way to go in my mind. We could be sitting in a
                  much worse position at this moment if there
                  had been 15 or 20 human deaths as a result of
                  the XL fiasco and we avoided that outcome only
                  be sheer luck.

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                    #10
                    I think the main point is that the incidence is lower than it was.

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                      #11
                      Proactive vs. reactive, I totally agree. However educating the public is another story. They will educate themselves even if is is in 30 second media intervals. And a quick google search will support Iain's comments on the strain of ecoli we are dealing with.

                      Even the Romain lettuce recall blames good old cow shit and how are we going to argue that one..

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                        #12
                        Thanks for the heads up and its good to check these things out GF but from the CFIA website, they post the following sources specific to E.coli O147:H7
                        Food commonly associated
                        •Beef, raw and undercooked, ground and whole cuts
                        •Unpasteurized apple juice or cider
                        •Unpasteurized (raw) milk and (raw) milk products, such as raw milk cheese
                        •Untreated drinking water
                        •Contaminated raw fruit and vegetables that are not cooked (including alfalfa and bean sprouts)

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                          #13
                          From wikipedia - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Escherichia_coli_O157:H7

                          While relatively uncommon, E. coli O157:H7 can naturally be found in the intestinal contents of some cattle.[15] Because ruminants lack a receptor for the toxin the bacteria produce, it does not cause disease in them and is considered commensal.

                          How does the water or the lettuce become contaminated Gary?

                          Don't get me wrong - I would rather the beef industry did not have to take full responsibility...

                          We could have a closer look at the rumen and why the environment in the barley or corn filled rumen is such a wonderful host for development of ecoli 0157 H7

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                            #14
                            The finger of blame in this scientific paper on the
                            0157 H7 strain certainly implicates cattle as the
                            original source - as was my understanding. I just
                            don't think CFIA looked beyond the apparent cause to
                            the actual cause in their statement.

                            http://epirev.oxfordjournals.org/content/18/1/29.ful
                            l.pdf

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                              #15
                              Hmmmm...that didn't seem to wrap correctly for me.

                              This worked okay for the E.coli info.

                              http://epirev.oxfordjournals.org/content/18/1/29.full.pdf

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