Crystal ball time

[grassfarmer]

I'm so tired of this "industry" bull crap - industry this,
industry that. You aren't in the beef industry as long
as you sell weaned calves Allfarmer - you are in the
cattle business. With dwindling numbers of producers
and higher cattle prices why should we be close to
serious trouble? its exactly where we want to be if we
are to be successful. Don't worry about the "industry"
being in trouble - worry whether you can actually
produce a calf and leave a margin at the price you
quoted feeding for a 200 day winter.
Don't worry about JBS they know how to run beef
plants and they'll stay. You are right Canada is not
going to supply JBS it's cheapest container of beef to
globally market. Cattle producers may well supply JBS
with the cheapest Canadian beef going into a
container though.

[ALLFARMER]

The problem is packers can't afford to pay much
more for the cattle coming in. Paying more is what
they are going to have to do to run their plants
efficiently long term.

[ALLFARMER]

ASRG - how is the hog plant at Red Deer making
out? The volume of hogs comming in must be a
fraction of what they used to get. High feed costs
but now at least a lowering Canuck buck.

[ASRG]

I think they are still doing okay. They get pigs from all over... including lots from Saskatchewan.

[grassfarmer]

"The problem is packers can't afford to pay much
more for the cattle coming in." ....and you know that
how?

"Paying more is what they are going to have to do to
run their plants efficiently long term." ..... don't follow
the logic there.
Why would running a plant "efficiently" by which I
take it you mean at or near capacity be the goal?
Surely like the primary producer profitability should
be the goal? If you have to bid up cattle so that you
lose money on each one running the plant "efficiently"
(at capacity) what's the point?
I don't profess to know a lot about running a big meat
plant. I'll leave that to those who want to be involved
in that sector of the beef production chain. We should
probably just concentrate on running our cow/calf
operations profitably.

[forage]

Better get your crystal ball out and find out what Bill 2 is all about.

[Kathy]

For those who might care, in my earlier post on this thread re: CHEM-WEBS which were floating down from high in the sky... this took place over our home and was also seen 12 miles to the west, 20 to the west, all on September 21, 2012. This same phenomena was also seen in France on November 7, 2012,
link to video:
http://www.geoengineeringwatch.org/amazing-chemwebs-fall-france-nov-7-2012/

No takers on what these are?

[Kathy]

sorry, 12 miles west over Hanna, and 20 miles EAST at a friends farm.