Will the Canadian cow herd expand or contract

[dluther]

VERY,VERY well put Kato. THANKS

[ASRG]

Pretty good read on it kato, except I believe Cargill was opened in 1989 and the CROW was scrapped in 1994?

[grassfarmer]

From what I read the CROW was scrapped in 1993
and NAFTA came into force in 1994.

[ASRG]

You might be right on 1993.

[SCS]

Interesting topic, and comments, here is my short two bits.

Met a Chinese delegation who was on a fact finding mission going to Agribition, and did they want answers. Biggest was, how can we get Canadian beef? Second one was how do they set up a farm to export the meat to China. They love our beef they ate in Canada!

What is the road blocks, trade issues with Governments.

What is our road blocks higher prices, the above and Government competeing for feed stuffs in the ethonal and bio diesel. If true that the US will be self sufficient in fuel supplies by 2017, and their economy continues to fail, that support will diminish.

SCS

[grassfarmer]

If they want Canadian beef all they need to do is pick
up the phone to Mr Cargill or Mr Batista and set up a
deal. Doesn't need any Government trade deal or CCA
mission to China to secure market access.
I suspect in reality the biggest problem would be
price. I know from my own few Chinese beef
customers they are very price sensitive.
If they want to buy land here and raise cattle on it,
sending the beef to China we have to be careful. No
problem if they come as individual business
immigrants but if they come as a front for the
communist state Government it's different.

[ALLFARMER]

I agree with that completely grassfarmer.

Harper needs to cancel the CNOOC deal.

[ASRG]

Why would Harper cancel the CNOOC deal? State owned companies own a good chunk of the oilsands already?

The fact is no one will buy the Nexen oil sand project because it is a dog....it has practically bankrupted Nexen.......just be glad someone will buy it!

I don't have a problem with China buying up farmland here....their money spends as good as anyones!

[rkaiser]

Nexxen is not so much about acquiring assets as it is about acquiring technology. Check into it boys. Shale up the ying yang in China and Nexxen has technology to mine it. LNG is cheap, technology expensive.

I love the fear of China shit. What do we do --- deal with even more Americans?

If you do the math and include numbers like 6 times the population of the USA there is far more capitalism going on in China than in the good old USA.

And that does not include the commucapitalist system that favors multinational companies in our darling country to the south of our 49th.

Should we fear these state owned companies in China or companies that direct government in the USA--- which is better?

Maybe no fear at all? Maybe let's just do some concious, aware business and quit being scared. We have lots of indsutry groups and governments of our own to look after that shtuff.