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    #37
    I live in a area where no way crop production, on it's own, could ever justify the prices.
    However, here is how my friend who is in the hay business sees it:
    $4000/acre land at 3% interest is $120/year....which he says isn't out of line for good land. He sells the majority of his hay either to Japan or Florida. He owns his own hay plant...and processes for a bunch of growers.
    He says land is/and has been appreciating here for the last twenty years at a rate of close to 4%.
    He says buying is actually preferable to renting for him. I think he has about 4200 acres in production of his own.

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      #38
      AF - I agree it actually is important.
      The challenge of borrowing against a
      fixed asset like land is that when it
      gets overpriced you can't generate
      enough cash flow from that asset to pay
      the payment. No one ever borrowed their
      way into trouble in bad times.
      I don't really know the Sampsons but
      know their cattle a bit. Based on where
      we live we do have a healthy net worth,
      and based on that fact there are a lot
      of folks developing property. I have a
      large personal conflict here, as I am
      not philosophically opposed to free
      enterprise or making money, but I am
      also not of the belief that all of the
      development around here is a good thing.
      That said, my thought won't slow it down
      and I have a responsibility that extends
      as far as what I own and control.
      I could probably trim 2 or 3 - 5 acre
      lots out of our place and ranch debt
      free the way things are right now, but
      it doesn't fit my personal ethic.
      I think we have missed (or externalized)
      a lot of the true cost of some of this
      development.
      GF - it was ironic, but I see it
      happening around here for sure.
      To my Wife - Love you (even though you
      know our net worth) - LOL.

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