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    #11
    These relatives of mine were doing the organic thing on beef and chickens. They were paying a pretty high price for "organic grain" (from Camrose).
    I don't know if glyphosate is really bad pre planting every few years but what really gets me is now so many are doing a pre harvest application? I mean spray it all down....and then harvest 10 days later? How can there not be residue in that grain?
    The Hutterites bought some land right beside me that was in hay. They sprayed it all with Roundup and when it started to turn yellow they cut and baled. I think they cut it one day and baled the next! Hauled the bales two days later and broke it up as fast as the bales were coming off!

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      #12
      GF - you might be surprised at how well
      you do. We used fertilizer and glyphos
      on 20 acres of corn 3 years ago and got
      no more production than on our multi-
      species swath grazing that has had no
      fertilizer in 20 years and has not had
      any spray in probably 10.
      A bit apples to oranges, as I doubt the
      corn would have done anything without
      the weed control, and it was not a real
      year for corn. If you seed thick with
      decent seed you can get a lot of cow
      days per acre for very little cost.
      We do add nutrients through feed but it
      is relatively little. Have a few weed
      patches that we may spot spray. We also
      use cultivation, although we are only
      tilled for about a week a year before
      something is growing again.
      I don't know if it is perfect but it has
      certainly been productive around here
      and our soil is getting better.

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        #13
        You must remember the chemical companies have "regulatory capture" on their side. These beloved "stakeholders" help make the rules.
        Hostage taking at its best.

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