Registered

[ALICIA]

if the cow was a registered Holsten on her papers it has the name of the breeder and then it lists all the owners every time she is sold. They know exactly were she was born and her birth and all the other breeding. Dam, sire grandsire,granddam etc. This must list some really big shots, and they are not sure about bring down the hammer.
Plus the meat from this cow has not only gone to about 5 different states, but to a country outside the states. It doesn't matter were the cow came from if all of us don't test ever animal that is sent for slaughter, we can kiss the beef industry good buy.

[Muttley]

The papers may not list every owner. They may only list present and last owner. If this meat did go to this many states and consumers it is a good plug for our Canadian industry because our BSE cow never made it into the human food chain.

I do agree with many that it seems hard to believe it takes so long to find old owners with these registered cows. A phone call to the national breed associations and you have it all in minutes. I believe it is a stalling tactic to use while they figure out what the heck move to make next.

[cowman]

Now if she is a registered cow I assume she would have a tattoo? Or do they tattoo dairy cattle? How hard would it be to read the tatto and phone it in to the Canadian holstein association? I never actually heard anything on the news about her being a registered purebred?

[kato]

Before the CCIA tags came in, cattle were exported with the metal tags. They have Canada right on them, and this number is listed on the export papers, along with any registration numbers, age description etc.

My question is, if this cow was down, and had a Canadian tag, and was suspicious, why did they not notify the authorities when they submitted the brain? Why did they wait until it looked like BSE to come up with the tag? You would think the tag number would have been one piece of information that should have accompanied the sample. That's the way every other lab sample in the world is handled. Its just plain standard operating procedure. Every sample is labelled with an ID, and the tag from the animal is a major part of that ID.

Apparently the same farmer had three cows killed that day. Did they just pick up the tag when they thought the hammer was going to fall?

[pandiana]

Interesting point Kato.

[farmerfudd]

AS far as I remember dairy cattle never have been tatooed. If this cow came from Alberta, belieeve me, she has more credentials than a world traveler. Most all Holsteins whether they are purebred or not are have been "registered" with NIP... national identification program, CHA..Canadian Holstein Ass., or DHI... Dairy Herd Improvment. Even "grade" milk cows have some sort of ID.
I read a thread about a steel tag; if thats the case the steel ID tag was abondoned some 6-7 years ago, or maybe the steel tag coyld be something to do with exporting, I'm not sure on that one. For as long as I can remember the female calves have been tagged and drawn or pictured. The problem might ly in th exporting of this animal. Maybe all her IDs' may have been dicarded, as we all keep hearing that the American system is so much better than ours
Cowman check the discussion threads at www.agweb.com They have basically condemned us already. I.ve read lots of threads that claim we a cesspool of BSE and want us completly isolated.
The only question that makes me nervous about our alberta feed is "what is the protein source in milk replacers?"

[Muttley]

People are questioning the eating of beef, now with a Holstein cow in the picture how long will it be before the issue of milk be heard?

[farmerfudd]

USDA said this morning........ no risk

[carebear300]

and the USAD wouldn't lie!!!!!!! LOL

[grassfarmer]

Muttley, That's a logical question to ask but in Europe, and in the UK particularily, the vast majority of cases of BSE were in dairy cows but there has never been any concern about drinking milk either from the "experts" or from the consuming public.
Strange really considering people have definately consumed milk from BSE cows - but as the say the consumer is always right.