Money,Money,Money

[dalek]

The previous cull cow program announced still hasn't been put into place in Ontario, the province hasn't decided whether to give the money to producers or try to convince the feds to give Ontario's share to Gencor to blow on the MGI plant so last I heard there isn't even an application available yet for an Ontario cull program. Knowing McGuinty it'll probably all go to Gencor, then farmers will have to pay for shackle space to sell them cull cows and those of us in the East or North won't get any benefit from it anyway because the trucking will be too high.

[kato]

Administration costs should be deducted from the amount of money advertised as going to farmers. That should cut it in half, at the very least.

Just think..civil servants working 7 1/2 hours a day, with two coffee breaks reducing that a bit. Monday to Friday. Four to six weeks holiday a year...how much can they really get done in a day? That means it takes more people to do the job.

Then there are the supervisors and the supervisor's supervisors and the middle management and the people in charge of making out the payroll and the extra people needed to answer the phone calls from farmers asking "Where's my money?" and the days off for training and the obligatory one sick day a month. We won't even get into upper management costs...that's all over the CBC right now.

With such stellar productivity, is it any wonder "farmers receive so much assistance from the government"? That should be worded to say "farmers and civil servants receive so much assistance from the government".

Don't get me wrong....I have no problem with government employees making a good living, I just have a problem with the cost of their wages being advertised as "Help for farmers"!

[boone]

kato: Perhaps we could start a new organization called 'Groupe Action Western ' and print all our applications on #12 roundhole sieve material.Then we would no upfront how much leakage to expect.

[boone]

Note to self: don't change intent of paragraph half way through sentence! Should be "know up front".

[ivbinconned]

Don't worry Boone:
Jimmy Derantie said "my wife has a speech impediment, she breaths between words"

We just thought you was speaking real fast!

[k-way]

dguignio: What did you do different than the rest of us to get CAIS money? We applied when the forms first came out (within 2 or 3 days) and we can't get anywhere. We are supposedly eligible, but have been refused the 50% producer asssitance because we weren't in NISA prior. Apparently, we lied through our teeth to FIDP so they can't trust the estimates they based on FIDP info. We need to do all the final payment paperwork before they will even talk to us again!!

[boone]

ivbinconned:you'vebinconned,we've allbinconned! Thanks for the understanding here.

[dguignio]

I don't know exactly what I did right.Perhaps because I only partially filled out the forms and sent them in like that, then in no time a gal from CAIS called up to find out more info told me on the phone I would get interm payment and a couple fo week later it arrived.p.s only have been in nisa 2yrs Alberta wouldn't allow income from cattle sales,live in Manitoba now.

[dguignio]

I don't know exactly what I did right.Perhaps because I only partially filled out the forms and sent them in like that, then in no time a gal from CAIS called up to find out more info told me on the phone I would get interm payment and a couple fo week later it arrived.p.s only have been in nisa 2yrs Alberta wouldn't allow income from cattle sales,live in Manitoba now.

[kato]

Would Groupe Action Western get more attention than F.A.R.T.? (Frustrated Agriculture and Rural Technicians)

MMMM...perhaps F.A.R.T. would create more of a breeze? (or is that stink?)

LOL

[pickarock]

Where do I get a membership - I want to FART too. Seems like that's all we can afford. Better do it before there is a tax on it.

[k-way]

NISA did finally open up to cattle farmers in AB, but at a time when money to feed cows during a drought was more important than money to join a program with little if any potential benefit (ie there was none - money that is). And we only partly filled the forms, too. But when they called us they said you're eligible for the partial payment, but we're not giving it to you until you submit your taxes, supplementary forms, and anything else we can dream up. To me that just doesn't even make any sense! Anybody from AB and not in NISA see any advance CAIS money?