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    cowman, you bet it works. If you have access to liquid, it works great, there is also a nw product out there that will time release the urea if you want . And yes its too bad fert isn't any cheaper but without it I wouldn't have the same grass or crops.

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    Ohh the old fertilizer debate-personally we haven't used any for over 15 years-it was funny my neighbor-huge farmer was out looking at cows with me in kneedeep quackgrass at least 12 years old stand-wouldn't believe me till i asked him when he saw a cultivator around our place last.I found the best fertility program is to fedd on your pastures in winter-start at one end and work across.We put in on thick you'd swear the grass would die but it doesn't. The real heavily manured stuff works good as carryover grass for following spring-they turn their nose a bit the next summer but go crazy for it now.As for our production on our old unfertilized grass in the drought last summer we had approximately 40 cow/days per acre. Our youngest pasture was seeded 12 years ago.

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      cswilson, I like the way you are fertilising your place but wonder if it will work as the sole nutrient program dependent on the size of your herd relative to land area?
      The place I bought (a section) had a stockpile of 10,000 tons of manure in the corrals when I moved here with zero fertility or nutrient cycling taking place on the land. I've spread all that manure now and I keep my cows (currently 120) out of the corrals and am building up the fertility in the fields by winter feeding as you describe. Problem is it takes a long time to cover this area of land.
      Do you think there is a certain number of cows per acre of total land that makes this system work - presumably if you live in an area where 40 acres support a cow it wouldn't work?

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        I guess everything is relative grassfarmer if you are in 40/ac/cow country you can't afford to use commercial fertilizer on that kind of grass either-I've seen some pretty sandy crappy pasture made great just by feeding across it.

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