Hutterites

[kato]

That "not so progressive. Just like the general population" didn't come out sounding right! LOL

What I meant was, some are progressive, some are not. In the general population, some are progressive and some are not.

There, clear as mud.

[grassmarketeer]

Kato, this colony beside me does their own C-sections and seems to have any drug they ever need. There is no Vet on staff there either. They do an exceptionally good job. My question is how do they get what they need? They won't tell. Why would they? They love the system we have. There is a shortage of Vets particularly happy well rested ones around here, but they all seem to be running very profitable businesses.

[cakadu]

What are some of the drugs you've had problems getting? The odd few times we've had to use any type of drugs at all, we've generally been able to get whatever we need from the vet, if we're willing to pay the price. We try not to use drugs at all, but if we have to we get them. Now, we probably don't get too much out of the ordinary i.e. antibiotics and such, so maybe other things are harder to get?

[grassmarketeer]

I can not get Rompin to tranqualize stock. I also don't seem to be able to get anything like lidocaine or whatever else to help me with putting a prolapse in. Respiratory stimulants like Dopram(do'nt know the spelling) would probably be hard to get also. Do you have access to these for farm use?

[grassfarmer]

In the UK farmers can't get Estrumate to abort heifers either, the vet has to visit and inject the animal. I was surprised how readily available it is over here.

[kato]

Lidocaine is one we won't sell for sure. It's for the local freezing on the side. Wouldn't use rompun for a c-section. The cow could go down and then you'd have a mess on your hands.

Someone must have taught those boys well if they are doing C-sections. Those freezing shots in the side are supposed to hit nerves. If you don't know what you are doing, it can get ugly.

You will never know where they got the drugs either, because if they ever told, they'd never get them again, and they know it.

[kato]

They quit making Dopram. All that is available is some compounded stuff from a couple of pharmacies.

Have to go back to the old tricks to get them breathing.

[grassmarketeer]

All be darned, I just got 5 cc of dopram Kato just to see if I could(about 30$).
I don't know what the boys use for drugs on C-sections, But they do a good job. I never had any intention on using Rompin for C-sec. You had just asked me what I might use. I have had to beg for(successfully) rompin in the past.

[GrnAsMoss]

Mexico, people.I was apaulled to learn of a feedlot(no where near here) with the old banned carcinogenic ab'ic "Chloramphenical" (for ITEME's), it's expiry date was good too. Lidocaine is also not a restricted Mexican drug either.
But wasn't this a Hutterite topic? The way Hutterite men treat their women is sad. To think that a Hutterite woman is content is untrue. Why not ask the many girls fleeing the colony how things are. I have and they aren't happy. The way Hutterite men are rude to Canadian "white" women and many show us total disrespect leads me to veer away from black hats.
Cowman: Those farmer's markets you buy from, be careful that those stands don't buy from the Hutterites as I know this is true of the old Blackfoot Mrkt in Calgary. They wholesale off of H's and retail to people like you.Ask the owner first of the source of the product.