Mark Purdey coming to Alberta and Saskatchewan

[cowman]

Too many locations for my feeble typing skills, but if you are interested, contact hkenney@telus.net or me at rpkaiser@telusplanet.net.

If you are as informed as our office manager for Ag minister Shirley McClellen about Mark Purdey. You may also note that the opening act for Mark is a fellow by the name of Ozzie Osborne who will bite off bats heads while Mark shows you how to feed your cows dirt.

[cowman]

Hey Rp Kaiser, if Ozzies coming I'm definitely going! I suspect me and him could have a real good conversation?
But seriously I'd really like to hear Purdy. I suspect he is one hell of a lot closer to the "truth" than all the "junk" science we've been fed on the BSE question? I mean really, how do you explain the deer/elk in the western states? I'd frankly like to hear the man speak?
BSE remains a great mystery to me. I am having a truly hard time believing all the crap my government/cattle organizations are trying to hand me? It just doesn't add up and I've always had a problem with accepting blatant BS!
I am beginning to suspect that this whole "BSE gospel" is in fact completely false...and the recent actions in Texas just confirm that?
I suspect the "industry" would feed us cyanide if they thought they could make a quick buck and I suspect if the people knew the "real" truth they would swear off meat for life? Just my paranoia...maybe?
I guess I am just a cynic...which is probably why it is a good thing that I am leaving the industry.

[rusty1]

MARK PURDEY
The Global BSE Researcher from Great Britain,
“Uncensored Information on BSE”
Lecture Tour
(BSE, CWD, Scrapie, & CJD)

May 14 7:30 pm Picture Butte Auction Mart
May 15 7:30 pm Bow Slope Shipping Assoc. Brooks
May 17 2:00 pm Assiniboia Auction Mart
May 18 10:30am Room 2115 WCVM, University of Sask.
May 18 7:30pm North Battleford Exhibition Grounds
May 19 7:30pm Lloydminister Wild Rose Pavilion
May 20 7:30pm BonnyvilleAgriplex
May 21 7:30 Czar Community Hall
May 22 7:30 Stettler Auction Mart
May 23/24 Vancouver Island BC TBA
May 29 7:30pm Drayton Valley Secura Auctions Ltd.
May 30 7:30pm Rocky Mtn. House AB Cole”s Auction Mart
May31 1:00pm Rimbey Auction Mart
May 31 7:30pm Ponoka Vold Jones Vold Auction Co.
June 1 7:00pm Calgary Dutton Theatre, Calgary Public Library, Main Branch (Downtown)
Contact the ”Western Canadian Spring Tour Coordinator” (Harold Kenney) for more info :
Ph:1-800-361-9722
Email: hkenney@telus.net

[rusty1]

Thanks rusty

[grassfarmer]

Cowman, the BSE mystery has become a lot clearer to me in recent weeks. Following the article by Dr Church in the Alberta Beef magazine I now understand the problem better. The key was his mention of milk replacer as a cause. After talking to him later I am now happy with this theory of BSE.

1 BSE symptoms as we know them are probably caused by some of the environmental factors raised by Purdey -this was the original new "disease". This might explain how deer get CWD also.

2 Rendering carcases of animals that had BSE and using some of that in calf milk caused the massive spread of BSE in the UK. Calves stomachs up to 50 hours of age are able to absorb high concentrations of protein to digest colostrum and this also allows them to absorb the BSE prions if they are present.
This exactly fits the profile of BSE in the UK - almost entirely a problem of dairy herds plus many beef herds that used beef x dairy cows that were reared on powdered milk. Many UK beef breeds like Luing never recorded a case of BSE, Galloways I know had one case but the calves mother died and it was reared on powdered milk.
Tests in the UK have proven that BSE can be spread this way - but attempts to spread it to older animals or through contaminated feed pellets did not work. No cross species transmission has been possible in the lab - they tried, but only by injecting BSE material directly into a mouses brain could they get transmission.
3 The Canadian case (cases?) of BSE were either spontaneous cases (caused by environmental causes) or very, very unlikely caused by rendered remains of a UK animal imported into Canada in the 1980s. Bear in mind most of the UK imported cattle that came to Canada were beef animals and not dairy - makes it even less likely that one had BSE.

So I think the evidence is out there - it's being kept quiet but it's there. For the first time since this began (for me in the mid 1980s)I feel I have heard the theory on BSE that is most likely correct. Given the cross species transmission tests spectacular failure I think we are probably safe to assume that BSE does not cause vCJD. Time will tell. Well done to the Alberta brains that are pulling this together.

[grassfarmer]

Well done , to you to grassfarmer. We need this story told in laymens terms like you have just done, over and over, and over again.
This theory is simply common sense truth, and the world needs to know it.
The more credible people like Dr. Church state their perspective, the better chance we all have of getting through this crisis, which will not end with a temporarily opened US border.
I hope that every one on Agri-ville gives this Purdey stuff some serious thought as this has potential to stop the maddness, and get us back to raising our "still and always" healthy wonderful Canadian beef.

[blackjack]

grassfarmer... this makes a whole lot more sense to me also...hopefully your message get up to the people making the rules.

[cakadu]

For those of us who don't get Alberta Beef magazine, could you please provide us with a little more detail on what the article said, or in the alternative, where one might find it?

Cheers,

[grassfarmer]

Try the following link although I can't guarantee it will work.
"http://www.albertabeef.ca/members/archives/displayarticle/?sel_record=1312"

[cakadu]

Thanks for the link grassfarmer. It would work if I had a password, but it is for members only.

Thanks for trying.

[ianben]

Yeah grassfarmer

This theory does seem better than most add a genetic factor ie we bred though AI a more suseptable dairy herd than average and it could work to explain most of our senarios which no one else has managed yet

I dont believe BSE was new just undetected till we recyclced it big time. I think very small numbers of cases will be found in every country if they are prepared to LOOK!!!

[grassfarmer]

Cakadu, I've emailed you the article in question.

[cakadu]

Thanks grassfarmer. I look forward to reading it. Cheers!!

Ianben, I think you're right about finding something if you look for it. I wonder how sophisticated the testing has to become.

Take something as simple as e-coli for example, one of the professor emeritus on food safety from the U of A said several years ago that we are just at the tip of the iceberg when it comes to understanding e-coli. As the testing gets more sophisticated, so will what we discover. The point being here that we still don't understand how some of these things work, despite having known and studied them for years already.

We need to start looking at what we are going to do when we find and understand more - how will we use this information?

[cowman]

Well hopefully we will use it for food safety? A lot of people are quite cheerful to say that the "statistics for BSE" are so small that testing isn't warranted. Well looking at the big picture I guess they are right...the only problem is, if you are the one that gets it then, for you, it becomes THE picture, period! At that time statistics mean absolutely nothing...at least to you?
I like to think that most people would do the right thing? For example if they suspected something was wrong with their product they would get it tested?
They sad truth is there are people out there who wouldn't, even if it meant the death of someone else? I will submit to you that those people are no better than your low-life drug dealer, dealing death out on the street corner?