Interesting comments from all. Cswilson: I like the way you think but I believe if the shoe were on the other foot and I could hold the entire livestock industry hostage and fix the price of fat cattle somehow, I would end up in jail. The fact of the matter is I as an individual producer could never be in the same monopoly situation as the packers are in this country. The 68-70 cents per pound the packers are paying for fats has nothing to do with a natural turn of events or supply and demand or free enterprise. The American packers are price fixing by using their monopoly stranglehold on the Canadian industry that they got handed on a plate after the U.S. government cut Canada off from the free market competition we depended upon to keep our markets fair and functional.
There is nothing free enterprise about the Federal and Provincial governments paying out almost $2 Billion in subsidies to producers and the packers clawing all the money back for themselves by artificially lowering the price of cattle the very day the programs are announced. If we’re going to let free enterprise take care of this, just about every producer in this country would be broke, there would be no Canadian owned feedlots of any kind left. The two packers and other American interests would own what ever remained of the Canadian beef industry. If we lived in a world where free enterprise ruled the day the American government could not shut the border to our live cattle on a whim and unfairly keep that border closed for 14 months while their producers enjoyed record profits even though the International Review Panel said this is a North American problem.
This is not a free enterprise problem and there will not be a free enterprise solution.
Rpkaiser: No there is no basis for weaned calves. Canada has not shipped many live weaned calves south for a long time. The market would work like it did before May 20 only the maximum basis deduction off of the U.S. Live Cattle futures that the packers could take would be established . Before May 20 this basis was established by competition in the market place. If the two packers in Canada took too much basis for themselves, the calves went south. Now without competition the packers have widened the basis without fear of consequence from competitors. Free markets do not function without competition, some way needs to be found to get the markets functioning again. No one is taking away the ability to make money or to loose money. The only thing that would be changed is limits placed on excessive packer profits.
There is nothing free enterprise about the Federal and Provincial governments paying out almost $2 Billion in subsidies to producers and the packers clawing all the money back for themselves by artificially lowering the price of cattle the very day the programs are announced. If we’re going to let free enterprise take care of this, just about every producer in this country would be broke, there would be no Canadian owned feedlots of any kind left. The two packers and other American interests would own what ever remained of the Canadian beef industry. If we lived in a world where free enterprise ruled the day the American government could not shut the border to our live cattle on a whim and unfairly keep that border closed for 14 months while their producers enjoyed record profits even though the International Review Panel said this is a North American problem.
This is not a free enterprise problem and there will not be a free enterprise solution.
Rpkaiser: No there is no basis for weaned calves. Canada has not shipped many live weaned calves south for a long time. The market would work like it did before May 20 only the maximum basis deduction off of the U.S. Live Cattle futures that the packers could take would be established . Before May 20 this basis was established by competition in the market place. If the two packers in Canada took too much basis for themselves, the calves went south. Now without competition the packers have widened the basis without fear of consequence from competitors. Free markets do not function without competition, some way needs to be found to get the markets functioning again. No one is taking away the ability to make money or to loose money. The only thing that would be changed is limits placed on excessive packer profits.
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