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    #21
    I don't believe that electing the "right" people into political office is the best thing to do because what is right for you may not be right for me. Further, I firmly believe that many people get into politics with the firm belief that they are going to change things, but eventually get sucked into that great vortex known as the "p"olitics. There are very few that keep their original intentions and their integrity intact.

    I question some of the statements being made -for example, how many on the east coast actually make $150,000 per year, even in a combined income? How many do that in Alberta? The gap between the haves and the have nots keeps getting bigger all the time and I don't like that any more than I think you do.

    What does Saskatchewan get in transfer payments, as I would presume it is considered on of the "have not" provinces.

    It is so easy to "lie" with statistics to prove a point or solidify one's position that sometimes it is hard to separate fact from almost fact from fiction. There is that old adage about believing none of what you hear, half of what you read and everything you see.

    Incidentally, I would point out that my moniker on this site is "cakadu" or you may feel free to call me by my name, which is Linda, as many other regulars to the site call me.

    I appreciate that this is your hill to die on ivbinconned - it just isn't mine. Having said that though, I am in 100% agreement that at all levels of government there has to be more accountability. I heard the other day that the provincial government is creating another department to ensure that all the existing departments are run more efficiently. Now if that isn't the ultimate is waste, I don't know what is.

    As for a plan to bring the accountability to the fore, I see negotiation as being key. Who all the players at the table would be would likely be open for debate, but I'm sure we would have no trouble at all in getting people to the plate. This is an issue that should be decided by the people because it affects all of us.

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      #22
      I don't believe that electing the "right" people into political office is the best thing to do because what is right for you may not be right for me. Further, I firmly believe that many people get into politics with the firm belief that they are going to change things, but eventually get sucked into that great vortex known as the "p"olitics. There are very few that keep their original intentions and their integrity intact.

      I question some of the statements being made -for example, how many on the east coast actually make $150,000 per year, even in a combined income? How many do that in Alberta? The gap between the haves and the have nots keeps getting bigger all the time and I don't like that any more than I think you do.

      What does Saskatchewan get in transfer payments, as I would presume it is considered on of the "have not" provinces.

      It is so easy to "lie" with statistics to prove a point or solidify one's position that sometimes it is hard to separate fact from almost fact from fiction. There is that old adage about believing none of what you hear, half of what you read and everything you see.

      Incidentally, I would point out that my moniker on this site is "cakadu" or you may feel free to call me by my name, which is Linda, as many other regulars to the site call me.

      I appreciate that this is your hill to die on ivbinconned - it just isn't mine. Having said that though, I am in 100% agreement that at all levels of government there has to be more accountability. I heard the other day that the provincial government is creating another department to ensure that all the existing departments are run more efficiently. Now if that isn't the ultimate is waste, I don't know what is.

      As for a plan to bring the accountability to the fore, I see negotiation as being key. Who all the players at the table would be would likely be open for debate, but I'm sure we would have no trouble at all in getting people to the plate. This is an issue that should be decided by the people because it affects all of us.

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        #23
        Linda: While I may disagree with you on some things/agree with you on others, I do agree with your right to see things as you see them. Ivebinconned has a lot of valid points...obviously I agree with just about everything he says in regards to western seperation.
        I do find it offensive when people resort to name calling or derision of another persons true feelings. Hey we are all pilgrims on the path of life here, right? We see it as we see it?
        Why would we ever consider trying to use derogatory language to put someones beliefs down?
        Now I know Ivebinconned can be a little bit "over-dedicated" but I do believe he never meant to be derogatory! If he miss-spelled your name/moniker I am sure it was just a mistake?

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          #24
          After reading an article in one of the local papers by one of the more off the wall writers (cowman, you can probably guess which person I am referring to) it came to me why I cannot fully get on board with this whole issue of how much money send away from this province. It is because it is focused on money and I am not motivated by money. Don't get me wrong, I want to have enough to live comfortably, but money on the whole doesn't mean that much to me.

          We can't be passionate about all things and I am glad that there are people who are passionate about the whole separation issue, but it is not me. I have other things that I am passionate about and I pursue those interests.

          To be more effective in getting people to take up a "cause", you have to find out what motivates each and every one of them so that individually they are able to envision some benefit in it for themselves, otherwise it is a non-starter. People today have too much occupying their minds, so if you can't find the right button to push, so to speak, you aren't going to get the support.

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            #25
            Right On Cakadu!! I agree wholeheartedly with you. Everyone has his own drum to beat. It is a sad and sorry day when individuals need to resort to ridicule and criticism to gain popular support. And such an atitude gets little respect from me. We still live in a democratic society and that means the right to decide based on information presented. If we decide against a particular way of thinking, that is our right. For me, anyone who resorts to bashing does not deserve my support. I believe in CANADA, whole and united, whatever that may mean. As for the AB election coming up, the PC's need to be taken down a notch (speaking from personal experience) and I believe they will be. They will be held more accountable. I feel the electorate is responsible for what it gets, but radical is not my bag!

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