Farmers and Ranchers Play by the Rules

[intr3est]

I made this comment on another thread, but I will make it again here. We can rely on Science as mush as we want, human errors happen. The only way to check those human errors is to have science on both ends. My argument, TEST everything, we are now started to try the patience of consumer confidence.

[magpie]

Grassfarmer I will direct this question to you. If a cow had the prion and was not showing signs of the disease, can the disease or prion be passed on to the calf thru the cows colostrums?

[kpb]

grassfarmer do I understand you correctly--only very young animals can get BSE? If this is so than there is no way it can come from protein supplement, obviously. Can it come from the mother's milk if she is affected? If not than milk replacer is the only alternative.
My limited understanding was that animals contacted this through contaminated protein supplement. Are you saying that this is incorrect? What do you base this on? thx in advance for your reply.

kpb

[intr3est]

I don't know why we ALL try to figure out the reasons for this desease and why we don't try to find a solution for the problem at hand. Trying to make excuses or to justify the reasons for the situation we're in, do no good. Let's try to find a solution for the present and future. If I buy a sour carton of milk, I don't ask why, I throw it out and don't buy from that company again. I don't try to figure out why it went sour. Sorry for my frustration, but I'm a little P/O tonight.

[InAHurry]

The quote by Charlie Angus does not sit favourably with me either.:
""Canada continues to lag behind the standards set in other regions that have dealt with BSE," Mr. Angus said in a statement. "Still, the Agriculture Minister is scrambling to prove that the status quo is good enough."

Such statements do nothing to instill consumer confidence in Canadian Beef. Opposition, south of the border, will grab this and run with it. Does he not realize their are organizations that are trying to shut down the boxed beef movement also?

My guts are in a knot, what will happen next!? Besides the extreme cold that is predicted to hit us shortly. A -50 with the windchill has got to be less stressful (smile)

[kpb]

intr3est, You're right--we need to deal with the reality of the current situation instead of dealing in what may have happened. How about we do something in this country that makes us different than everyone else in the world--maybe a cull, maybe testing, maybe both, maybe something I have not thought of. I think we need to do things now to make our beef acceptable to everyone.

[intr3est]

you know, one thing I have learned in my short 35 years, is that everybody in Canada is afraid of change. The staus quo is not always good enough. the market, trends and everything else changes, we need to also. Let Canada be a leader and not little brother anymore. Little brothers always get beat up!

[rkaiser]

intr3est. Do something is right.

4 members of the Beef Initiative Group including myself met with our Provinvincial minister of agriculture today.

We went in with our conceptual proposal for a producer owned, levy funded packing plant that would test for BSE and export product offshore.

Minister Horner asked us where our market would be for this BSE tested beef, and suggested that our contacts who have said they would take tested BSE beef may be all talk. His suggestion was that we have documentation and commitment from a buyer to "seal a deal" so to speak.

I asked him if it would not be the governements postition to speak to the government of Japan, or Korea about rules regarding trade of BSE tested product. His reply to that was that we need to take that up with the Federal folks. No offer to assist in this next step, so it will be up to our President and crew when they meet Andy Mitchell on Friday morning in Saskatoon.

We believe that the Beef Industry groups in this country have dropped the ball when it comes to this and other BSE related issues. It is time for me, and you, and every other cattle producer in this country to make every effort to follow up on the issues we all have been discussing on Agriville.

Time to get in some people's faces. Time to stand up to BS statements like that of Ralph Klein today.
Time for Change in Policy and an end to bailout BS.
Time to look for solutions other than an open border to the USA.

[gwf]

Randy: What was the question your group asked of Mr. Horner?

[intr3est]

rkaiser, are you at home, so that you can email me tonight. I might be able to help with this federal support for Friday. Leave your ph# if possible, I'll get back tonight if not too late. murgen_89@hotmail.com