Cebull may ban boxed beef

[magpie]

I think back when BSE appeared in may of 2003. All the dialogue of testing for and not here on this forum. Seems we have all come full circle now and if they close the border to boxed beef that will be our last card to play, either in or out. If their had been some leadership by our gov’t and cattle organizations to test, such as other countries have done, this Montana judge and rcalf would have no grounds to impose injunctions.

[kato]

This is exactly why we've got to get aggressive right now.

Open, closed, open, closed. That's nuts!

You can't run a business like that. If it opens with a probable closing date set in August, it's not going to be pretty. There will be mass dumping on the market, and the price will be so bad that it may as well be closed. Unless of course Americans are up here buying everything they can while they can! And they'll get them over the border as fast as they can.

Funny, once you think of it, the potential ruling by Cebull in July just could spark the very flood of Canadian cattle that R-Calf predicted. I bet they didn't figure that THEY would be the reason it will happen.

How ironic is that?

We all know he's going to close it again as soon as he can, and then it'll have to be appealed ... again. It'll go all the way to the Supreme Court. We all know how fast that sort of thing happens!

In the meanwhile, we all go broke, half the American packers shut their doors, and if those knotheads down south think they're suffering under 'captive supply' now, they haven't seen anything yet.

How does R-Calf think that they are going to be farther ahead if they lose the competition for their cattle? I guess because there are no packers in Montana, it doesn't matter, eh?

[15444]

All we can hope for is that the border opens, US packers and every single feedlot down in the US fills their lots enough to hold on and drive down the fall price on the R-CALF cattle, even after the border closes in August. It would be sweet justice, even if just for one year.

[cowman]

I believe I said test them all about two weeks after the border closed in 2003...but whatever?
I do believe many countries around the world are watching right now how Canada is being treated by the US. Mexico has just recently come out and blasted the US for not playing by the rules and stating very clearly that they will treat US meat exactly how the US treats Canadian meat! Japan has basically said the same thing?
I wonder if the average American ever gets it? That you can't treat your neighbors like garbage and still expect anyone to trust you? Why did America ever sign a free trade deal if they never had any intention of living up to it? I hope the South Americans are watching how the US honors their committments?
It is so sad to see these narrow focussed interest groups try to railroad the greatest trading pact in the world...for a few measly dollars! In the end they are only shafting themselves and they are too dumb to even realize that?
Go ahead and lie and tell the consumer the food system isn't safe and beef is "instant death"! Join up with PETA and Earth First and tell the American consumer the American inspection Agencies are corrupt and not doing their job...keep it up and soon you will ruin our industry. Like I said these guys definitely aren't the sharpest knife in the drawer!
Why is our useless government doing so little? Why is it up to guys like Rick Paskal and Cor van Ray, to fight for our rights under the NAFTA? Trade is a government responsibility and they can't even mount a challenge under NAFTA? What are we paying them for? Why even have a ministry of trade?
I thought NAFTA was supposed to be a NORTH AMERICAN FREE TRADE deal not an AMERICAN FREE TRADE deal? How come America makes all the rules and Canada and Mexico have to abide by them? Maybe the time has come for Canada and Mexico to stand up and kick the US out of NAFTA? Let them go deal with their friends...oh I forgot they have no friends other than the dictators they've bought?

[kato]

In trading with America, the basic rule is that if it's all in their favour, it's a good deal.

If their trading partner is prospering, they MUST be cheating, and something needs to be done about it.

I too am absoulutely amazed at the stupidity going on down there. The best cattle prices in history, and for a couple of cents a pound more, they are willing to risk ruining the industry. It boggles the mind!

It also makes you wonder how much money is enough? Obviously there's no such thing. If this is the grief we get during record high prices, imagine the flack we would be getting if prices were poor down there right now?

[Hank]

Look out you may find 20 more of the Mad Cow buggers. You'll get what you deserve Randy Kaiser.

[Hank]

Mexico has just recently come out and blasted the US for not playing by the rules and stating very clearly that they will treat US meat exactly how the US treats Canadian meat!

So this would mean that Mexico would import more US boxed beef than ever before?? Soon those will be shut off to then you damn canucks can rot in your own self pity.