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    #11
    grassfarmer, I think there are a couple of factors at play here with light feeders selling so well. I think there are some American and Canadian buyers speculating that the border will open by the time these light feeders are grassed, then finished next fall (likely to finish around December or January). There are some guys like my neighbour who has too much feed (swaths) this year and who bought calves three weeks ago just to use up the swaths and thence to grass. There are lots of guys who grass every year and will buy calves no matter the cost because their land is paid for and the grass grows and it's rough ground so they can't hay it. There's lots of guys like that. Then there are the feedlots who are still trying to recoup their losses.
    I run a cow herd and grassers and background feeders so I guess I see a little of every side. I will generally buy between 300 and 500 grassers every year to run on rough range near Lac La Biche. So what should I do this year? If I buy them I'll likely be paying too much like everyone else currently is. But if I don't the land may sit idle or I'll have to contend with renters which, to be blunt, is a pain. That, I think, is the biggest reason for the high price on light calves--all the ranchers who grass cattle are in the same bind--they basically have to buy every year.
    We all know how optimistic producers are--always looking for a better next year but feeders, I think, are even more optimistic. A feeder will keep buying calves until the bank says no because he is always hoping to make a profit and wipe out his losses from previous pens. I think light feeders will continue to trade high until the feedlots absolutely can't buy them. But grassfarmer it is a very bad sign for future prices to see the heavy feeders and fats trading so poorly because it means that eventually the guys who own these heavy feeders are going to run out of money to buy the lights.
    Grassfarmer, the biggest problem with this open again, closed again border is that it wears a person out not knowing what the future will bring and trying to make major business decisions based upon ????
    I guess hope springs eternal in the feedlots and grass operations in this country.

    kpb

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      #12
      Grassfarmer, where do you find this TEAM site that you talk about?

      I usually check out the prices in Alberta at Ropin the Web. http://www.agric.gov.ab.ca/

      The prices shown for 5 to 600 lb. weights, are considerably lower than your quotes on this site. I find the comparisons interesting here, as it gives both this week, last week, and last year same time.

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        #13
        ...bombay...it runs under the Calgary Stockyards out at Strathmore...try www.teamauctionmart.com...

        ...kpb...I agree with your lastpost...this back and forth crap with the states has got really old...being the same type of operation as yourself makes it very tough sometimes in which way to go...the boys that sold 700 weight and up three weeks look likes the right move...looks like tough slugging ahead for the heavier feeders again...

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          #14
          I agree totally. I have some good young bred cows (May calvers) to sell and keep trying to guess when is the best time to offer them. Open again, closed again is wearing us all thin. Have a good day all!

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            #15
            Bombay,
            TEAM are at www.teamauctionsales.com, you need to sign in to use it the first time but once signed in you can check out the lots for sale. I find the extra information they give on size, breed, weight, type and owner of the lots gives you a better grasp of what the market really is - they also have pictures. VJV at Ponoka also list the CSLA listings on their site with details but no pictures.
            I have found these powerful tools to assess what the market is like for the type of cattle you want to buy or sell. The market reports in the papers are largely a work of fiction and the averages on ropin the web are so sweeping they aren't that helpful.

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