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    #46
    GEEZ Cowman !!! I think that 4-H teaches basics and it also will show members that not everyone wants to play by the rules....they can choose to do so or not, but for the most part the kids seem to understand the rules one heck of a lot better than their parent do.

    As for 5H, I never heard about that one, and how in hell would anyone know if the 9 year old first year member is gay or straight. Hopefully we don't start worrying about gender garbage in youth groups !!! And if we do its boneheaded adults that are the ones initiating the issue !!!

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      #47
      I never let my kids join 4H. I guess I wanted to keep them innocent of what an evil world it was out there! LOL
      But I will admit I had a ball in 4H. And it sold a lot of bulls for the old man!

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        #48
        cowman we did not push our kids into 4-H, the youngest one wanted to join while the other one was interested in sports vs working with a critter.

        I know a lot of kids that have paid for one or more years university with the earnings from sales of 4-H steers, and some of them have received numerous scholarships partly due to the experience they gained in 4-H.
        I think it is an excellent program as long as it is done the way it was intended. When parents get their noses into the business of the club then show politics usually gets in the way of common sense.

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