South American beef

[cowman]

Peronally, I wish Ralph would stay to hell at home and not go on a foray down east to tell them about our OIL RICHES. Far as I am concerned its none of their damn business !!

[ivbinconned]

Ted wrote 15 years ago, I have the artical, "untill they think we might get out ,they will do nothing to keep us in!"

He knows the answer to his question!

A socalist state can only maintain if they have some region to "****", steal and plunder. And with the help of the N. (no) D.(definite) P. (policy) they are enabled.

I have been waiting for Belinda to walk the floor now that the Liberals have appointed a sepratist symatizer to the highest office...I think I am going to be sick....

[ivbinconned]

Nobody really cares what we think out here in the west. We just keep plodding along in confederation just like some good old dairy cows that are used to the same routine year after year. Now that the eastern drivers are raising hell about gas prices there is going to be a COMMITTEE to investigate them ! ( Gas prices, not the eastern drivers !!) My bet is that nobody from Alberta makes it onto the committee !!!!

[sjc]

I read an article that said Brazil puts more embryos into there Brahma cows in one day then the United States puts in in one year.
Their quality of genetics is improving and they will be a force in the future. In all agricultural commodities not just beef.

[Willowcreek]

When (not if )this cheap South American beef starts being brought north by the Tysons & Cargills of the world-- it would sure be nice if they would be required to label it as to Country of Origin, so the consumers of the US and Canada could have a choice- EH?

[farmers_son]

All the data suggests that consumers do not care where their beef comes from. There is nothing keeping retailers from voluntarily labeling beef as to country of origin now but the market is not demanding it and is not willing to pay for it.

The impression on this side of the border is MCOOL is more about keeping out Canadian beef than South American beef.

The five main consumers for Brazilian beef exports are: the United Kingdom, the Netherlands, Chile, the U.S. and Russia. Egypt, Germany, Iran, Israel, Italy, Netherlands, Saudi Arabia, the European Union 15 are also important markets. The most significant growth markets for Brazilian beef have been Russia and Egypt. Brazilian beef exports continued to be hampered by foot and mouth disease. Brazil plans to push its own rapidly expanding beef exports further into Asian markets, including Japan.

According to http://beef-mag.com/mag/beef_brazil_looks_north/

Production costs are a third to half of what American ranchers face. Brazil's costs are better compared to Australia's grass-fed beef system, but even then, Brazil wins out — at a 15% lower cost of production.

About 90% of all market cattle are sold directly to Brazilian slaughterhouses, the majority of which are small and inefficient by U.S. standards. In Paraná, for example, 33 facilities kill an average of 200 head/day. Another 81 kill 60 head/day. Paraná also has some larger “conglomerate” slaughterhouses — but they're few and far between.
Beef farmer Edson Gaudêncio, Santo Antonio, Paraná, says this packing structure catches most Brazilians between a rock and a hard place.
“With the small slaughterhouses, you never know when you will get paid,” he says. Cattle checks often take more than a month to be delivered. “And the bigger slaughterhouses that can guarantee payment sometimes form cartels to develop one price among them,” he adds.

[cowman]

Without a doubt the feds are coming. This advisory board is the first move in the old Liberal plan of divide and conquer. In all likelyhood it will bring the lost sheep back into the fold? How do the likes of Peter MacKay defend Albertas wealth while his own constituents are told they can share in the plunder?
I do believe Ralph played his first card when he announced the $400 thing? Notice we won't get it right away, but probably after the Liberals become more blatant in their attempt to steal our money? If you were a young family who had been promised $1600 how would you feel when it becomes impossible because an eastern government decided to steal it?
Harper and the Conservatives are caught between a rock and a hard place. No way can they win this thing? Better if the old Reform party had never ventured east? The fact is they should have stayed in the west and not watered down their policies and values in an attempt to woo the easteners?
There is a woman in western Canada making some noise? Maralyn Burns? Going to take a run at the Alberta Alliance leadership? She talks a tough game...put up the firewalls and move Alberta into a position of strength!
If Ralph folds on this one we might just see a massive shift in support to a party that will stand up for Alberta and defend our resources?

[cowman]

cowman I am sure that the $400 will be paid out, and possibly Ralph's last stand will be to take on the feds over Albertas resource income.

[cowman]

emerald: I too think the $400 will be paid out. I think also Ralph might be playing a deeper game here by holding off until later in the year?
When Gomery makes his first report in November the Canadian citizen should be rightly outraged? I believe at that time the federal Liberals will be looking for a way to divert attention away from their theft? What better way than attack the "oil Barons" in Alberta? Get the easterners in a freanzy over the greedy millionaires taking food out of their childrens mouths!
It is at that time Martin will play the divide and conquer card? But Ralph will have an ace up his sleeve...he will be able to say to the Alberta public..."There goes your yearly prosperity check! Down to Ontario, Quebec and the maritimes"!
How do you think that will go over here? Do you think Alberta citizens will gladly hand over their property to their masters down east? Or will they finally rise up in righteous indignation and say ENOUGH! I do believe Ralph is setting up the end of this country and I also expect he knows what he is doing? Should be fun!

[cowman]

I am sure there is a method to the MADNESS cowman, guess we will have to see how it plays out !!