Just curious

[HAYMAKER]

How would you canadians handled the "BSE" crisis if the beef market was in canada & 4cases of BSE was found here in the states causing billions of dollars of your exports to diminish,some of which will never be recovered............good luck

[HAYMAKER]

PS Dont give me this packer line about "sound science",just straight talk if you dont mind.........good luck

[blackjack]

... as an individual cattle producer i can only tell my beef producer reps my opinion... we can b.s. around the bush as much as you like...but our govts will dictate what the rules will be and if you haven't noticed they pretty well have...maybe we should have been like you guys and did a better job of the shoot,shovel and shutup...by the way ...just curious but from reading on ranchers net it seems to me your feeder market as held steady to higher...why is that...

[rkaiser]

I guess I would have done exactly what I have for the past three years.

Continued to raise the best beef cattle that I possibly could and put groceries in my wifes cupboard.

Do you really think that Canadian producers would have had any more control over the situation than you did? Don't kid yourself Haymaker, Rcalf had nothing to do with the border being closed or when it would be opened again. You and your Rcalf pals have been used like a spare tire by your packer led USDA. Made for good fun watching producers bash producers while the only ones benefitting sat back and laughed.

[FRENCHMAN]

Maybe if R-Calf had pushed for a believable testing program In the U.S they would be open for bizness with the Japanese

[Willowcreek]

FRENCHMAN-"Maybe if R-Calf had pushed for a believable testing program In the U.S they would be open for bizness with the Japanese"

frenchman- Which US cattle organization called for the USDA to allow Creekstone and the independent packers to test everything? To test for the Japanese market?

Which organization questioned USDA's testing procedure and tests?

Which organization came out from day one and said that if we have to we should test everything in order to keep consumer confidence and find the extent of the disease so we can eradicate it, instead of spread it by dropping quarantine barriers?

I guess you don't know as much about R-CALF as you think- EH!

[FRENCHMAN]

Tell me Oldtimer ... how R-Calf got to the bottom Of the things ..At no point did R-calf ever try to get to the bottom of Reports from former U.S.d.A employees that the U.S testing program was fatally flawed

You yourself brushed them off as disgruntled employees...when I asked you if R-Calf was going to investigate the reports .

All R-Calf ever said Is we don,t have a problem .

Do you think that the Japanese can,t read .


Even now they down play their U.S homegrown case of B.S.E

[FRENCHMAN]

Remember This thread OT
http://ranchers.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=2885&highlight=friedlander

good luck

[Willowcreek]

You better go look at the policies that came out of the R-CALF meetings...

[FRENCHMAN]

Really Ot why don,t you post for us all