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    #16
    Now I am worried I came across as being critical of Cswilson. Hope not. If I was being critical of anyone it was the various ag departments that encourage us to calculate our home grown feed at market cost which I think tends to move us towards short term thinking rather than take the long term view. Really the thread started off about rkaiser having cows custom fed anyway, not about Cswilson buying hay for his cows.

    I do know Cswilson personally. I can assure you that I think Cswilson knows what he is doing or I would not be inclined to compare what I am doing to his operation. Basically what I am doing if I compare my operation to his or rkaisers is benchmarking. The thread started off with Cowman’s comment “I'm still not sure if Randy is doing the right thing but I'm starting to think he might be on to something?” Exactly so and Cswilson might be on to something too. I do think the issue is do you produce the feed for your cows in house or do you outsource your feed. It is worth thinking about.

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      #17
      The sad part about ranchers farmers_son is that even if you had a breed,management system,etc that garantedd them to make money every year undewr any weather or market they all still wouldn't embrace it-so not doing somethging because soon 'everybody will be doing it' isn't really a valid argument-ranchimng is one of the last bastions of agriculture where you can use youir imagination and make some changes in your operation-not too many cookie cutter ranch operations out there.

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        #18
        farmers_son you know me personally now that is news to me lol.

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          #19
          Well Mr. Kaiser I'd never accuse such a worthy debate opponent of sucking up and feel free to be critical farmers_son-god knows I'm guilty of that myself. The big reason I buy my hay is that I have a deep and abiding hatred of machinery-the less I have to do with it the better.

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            #20
            "...the less I have to do with it the better."

            Amen wilson, amen.

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              #21
              Testify-my brother lol.

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