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    #16
    Cswilson: Good points. For me, I have long ago had to quit doing what I liked and do what worked instead. I am just as comfortable around machinery as around cows and grain farming can be a nice way to make a living. After the loss of the Crow Rate we have been forced to focus more on cows and grain farming has become only marginally profitable. On a winter like this however you simply cannot beat being in the cow calf business assuming the weather is this great in the spring. I do think growing forages has become less profitable as a result of the loss of the Crow Rate plus the impact of the U.S. Farm Bill on Canadian barley and for that matter wheat prices. That is making it increasingly more difficult for Canadian farmers to compete with U.S. farmers for machinery among other things. We Canadians seem to have blinders on. While the U.S. farmer has been enjoying absolutely fantastic returns we are discussing how we can do with less machinery. The U.S. farmer is more concerned about his income tax situation and should he have one new pickup or a new a new stock trailer too. No discussion about having to do with less down there.

    And buying in hay probably does average out over time. There is a story about the accountant that drowned in water that was only 3 feet deep. It is not the water at the edge that will kill you it is the fast and deep flows in the middle that do you in. Stability is the farmers friend as free cash flow to float the farm through a price crisis is just not available. CAIS does encourage producers to be single enterprise operators where previously there was a tendency to be diversified to help guarantee cash flow. The concern would be however that CAIS is not going to be around much longer and the program was basically guaranteed to self destruct anyway because of diminishing margins which were bound to happen as agriculture in Canada is simply not competitive with the United States whether we are growing grain, forage or cattle.

    Cowman is right to point out why pound the hell out of machinery for little return. I pointed out above that cattle are really little different than machinery, just another way to harvest grass. If we stepped back and took a look we would see that we have been pounding the hell out of our cows too and the herd is looking a little rough with culls and late calvers and so on. If feed and pasture were not so cheap the cows would be a little thin too. The reality is that there is the cattle are generating only marginal returns either, at least in Canada. We are still $200 a weaned calf under the U.S. and that cannot be ignored.

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      #17
      farmers son: I think that post was pretty well thought out and states the problem as it is.
      I personally don't like operating machinery much and definitely don't like repairing it, but it is an evil necessity in most cases. And yet my old Dad was never happier when going round and round! Different strokes for different folks!

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        #18
        How things differ from one end of this country to another
        We are in a potatoe growing province.

        Land prices depend on "spud" prices good dry land usually runs $3.000 an acre
        Provincial regulates the rotation and most are on a three year cycle. grain,grass,and spuds

        Most potatoe farmers sell the first cut of grass and mulch the rest of the season.
        We buy standing hay and cut and bale it ourself. avg. cut 6 bales 4x4 silage on a good year sometimes as high as 10, This past season cost $40.per acre standing plus cut ,bale,haul and wrap

        At the price of land we cant pasture on good farm land so half of our cows go to community pastures one or more is available in each county

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          #19
          I'm doing what I like and it works so it's a win-win-it might surprise you that our price is below the U.S. but our cost of production might beat them alot of times too. You can have just as much cash flow problems owning equipment as you can buying feed-believe it i've done both. You keep on a hayin'and i'll keep on a buyin'. Just out of curiosity where is your operation located.

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            #20
            Get a map of P.E.I. and find St Nicholas in prince county we are on Egmont Bay 15klms west of Summerside

            The red soil of Prince Edward Island therefore = redcountry

            regards

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              #21
              Liberal Red country?

              Hope you enjoy our Alberta blue skies!

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                #22
                And what a beautiful place PEI is redcountry !!!

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