Hay

[Rodjam]

Great, the Americans want to track a bale of hay accross the country and yet they still cannot find a way to track a cow.

[cowman]

Well hopefully with the new government in Ottawa we'll get away from the sillier parts of the Homeland security thing? They are already talking about scrapping that stupid pass port requirement.
It must be good for Bush to finally have someone up here running the country who doesn't think he is a total creep and wants to work with him to keep things working, instead of using some phony legislation to ruin commerce between our two countries? I can imagine the protectionists in both countries aren't very happy about it though!
All I can say is thank God we got rid of those Liberals!

[Willowcreek]

emerald-1 Actually it is for Homeland Security and more for tracking a poisoning or terrorist tainted event??? But I guess it could be used for weeds too....

And your right- the truckers will be the ones catching the heat- either at the international or any state ports and weigh stations...

I'm starting to think the terrorists have won the battle over the independent producer thru all the stupid government rules...

Hell pretty soon you won't need to know nothing about cattle or farming anyway- computer will tell you everything...Learned the other day that USDA now has a satellite that can tell if you spread the manure too heavy on your fields (EPA violation)....They can set in their office and police you...

[Willowcreek]

I do hope that cooler heads will prevail between our countries if, as cowman says, the governments can beging working together vs at odds .

[Cattleman]

Thanks cswilson, I'll have to give him a call.

About half the hay is shedded. Most of the shed was full of the first cut grass hay we put up this year.

We have sold a few bales to a couple of people for baiting, but they only needed a few bales each.

Thansk again

[cswilson]

The bigger outfitters would go through a few hundred a piece I'm betting.

[dballan]

I just found this thread this evening and found it very interesting. We grow and market hay trying to maintain a high standard of integrity. One of the things that I find troublesome is when a buyer compares our prices for a given weight of bale without taking into consideration the moisture content. Our bales have weighed from 1100 to 2000 lb. depending on variety, purity and moisture content. When a customer asks how much our $40 hay bales weigh and I tell him I can sometimes get a response saying that he can get bales weighing 100 lb. more down the road for the same price. We bale all of our hay dry to minimize dust and eliminate mould. At 7.5% moisture a bale is going to have more dry matter than a bale that is 18% moisture and weighs 100 lb. more. Am I not right?
www.AllanHay.com

[wheat]

If the hay is baled at 8% moisture, where did all the leaves go ? The new preservatives can mask a lot of moisture as well. The comment on hauling hay in the drought, had a different problem for us. The stuff came from Manitoba. Same deal, what you saw, even if you made the trip, was not necessarily what you received. Sometimes the beast from the East, isn't from Ottawa!

[wheat]

wheat, unfortunately a lot of people in my area had the same experience. Either went and looked at hay themselves or had someone else do it,and had to pay upfront for the hay, then when it arrived it wasn't the same quality. During the winter of 02/03 it was disgusting to see some of the garbage being hauled and called decent feed. Lots of cattle had a tough winter and not because their owners hadn't put out good money for feed.

I was lucky in that I only had a bad experience with one seller, the rest of the feed I bought was good feed and was delivered as promised etc.

[dballan]

Our 8% moisture content is grass hay. Leaves can't be held on legumes at that level. We bale our alfalfa at the 15% level as much as possible. 18% second cut works well if it is late enough in the season when the ambient temperature has dropped to 10C.

[redcountry]

What ever became of the train loads of hay we loaded at Moncton N.B. to go west?
was it any good when it got there?
and how was it given out?

[dballan]

I heard that some cows ate it.