Wondering about this?

[coppertop]

grassfarmer I certainly did not mean to undermine European farmers but I do know of several cases where farms were marketted in Europe as being all ready set up confined feeding operations, and when the purchasers arrived the found that they were forced to upgrade barns, lagoons etc. prior to being allowed to commence business. This certainly is not a reflection on thos individuals, but was meant as a criticism against the practices of some realtors and land brokers.

[cowman]

grassfarmer: I wonder where all the local yokels came from? Did they just majically appear under a cabbage leaf one day? Or did they too come from Europe? If so wouldn't one assume they too might have generations and generations of European agricultural experience? Just like the Johnny come latelies? Maybe European farmers become stupid or something once they get to Canada, or revert back to neanderthals or something? Maybe that is our problem!
Or perhaps (here comes the shocker) they learned how to adapt and survive in this country and just might be able to teach the "new" European immigrant something of value? No...probably not...it seems all the real progress in agriculture was done in the last hundred years by superior European farmers! Hmmm...if they know it all I wonder why they are leaving Europe?

[grassfarmer]

Cowman, It's a well known fact in Scotland that the most successful producers on the poor soils and wet climate of the west coast move to the higher value east coast where the soils are better and life a lot easier. Once they get there they adopt the "lazier" lifestyle of their new neighbours. If you don't need to push too hard human nature doesn't tend to. I suspect this is true of Canada and immigrants to an extent.
I bet Cor Van Raay is real glad he learnt how to get on in Canada from you Cowman.

[cowman]

Nope Cor never learned nothing from me, but I bet he learned a lot from someone? I don't think he hit the shore here feeding 100,000 steers!
I know another Dutch guy who came here and didn't know zip about gas and oil. Now he could probably buy Cor Van Ray lock stock and barrel...ten times over!
People adapt and find there own level of competance wherever or whatever they are doing. Some are driven to greatness, some are comfortable at a smaller level?
People are people, no matter what their nationality or the color of their hide! They all want to get ahead and have a secure life? How they get there is their own choice, and in reality there is no right way and no wrong way. Just whatever it takes to get you down the road. Just my opinion.

[coppertop]

Anyone who is to succeed in another country is going to have to be on a steep learning curve from day one, and make themselve aware of the rules and regulations that will govern their particular business etc.

[grassfarmer]

It's a bit like the "local knowledge" thing - what rules and regulations? Coming from Europe it's not hard to adapt as there don't seem to be many rules and regulations and the ones there are aren't enforced. That was the least of my "things to learn"

[cowman]

Yea grassfarmer, its pretty good! Personally I think we need a lot less rules and regulations than we have today! I've never been much of a fan of the government telling me what I can or cannot do? Enjoy it, because I doubt it will last for long?

[coppertop]

any rules that aren't enforced are due to the huge lobby from industry to water down the regulations that are in place !!!!!