Questions for kpb

[cswilson]

So if we charge ourselves labour and subtract it from the gross-isn't it still income the cattle provided. X dollars in labour doesn't just disappear into thin air-if we charge it to the enterprise. What I'm getting at is ranching is a series of income and expense events that go on for years. I get it all the time'Why finish your calves you only made $50 bucks clear over selling them as calves' Well if in my ranching liftime you pick up 50 bucks on every calf onn average it starts to add up. You bite and scratch for every nickle be it selling cull cows-cutting feed costs-orwhat have you. It seems alot of people get the whines when you can't buy a yacht on one turn of calves but remember you crawl before you walk. If the decisions you make either increase your income or cut your costs-no matter how much you'll still be operating for alot of years. I'm sorry for having a positive thought on Agri-ville but just can't help myself.

[kpb]

don't recall actually putting in a labour cost in my numbers, oh well cs must have been thinking about someone else I guess. As for yachts, it's been a while since I figured I should have one of those. And $50 per head per calf over a long time ain't going to pay many bills around here, lol.

cs wilson, do you actually run any cattle or feed any calves out there yourself or are you just a cheerleader?

kpb

[cswilson]

We never have less than 500 head of cows and calves around-not a cheerleader but not a crybaby either there sunshine. Phone up Highland Feeders and get some closeouts faxed to you if you like -maybe you'll learn something. By the way any rancher knows better than to ask soebody how many cows they run-poor manners there on your part for sure.

[kpb]

I don't recall asking how many you run--just if you run any at all since your grasp of ranching economics seems so limited. By the way I am well aware of the feeding business on a larger scale than Highland Feeders.

kpb

[cowman]

Reluctantly I touch this one!...I can see both sides on this one! Hey if you are sitting on your butt anyway...how much harder is it to charge labor?
Now I am a firm believer in the kpb philosophy, but I can also see where cswilson is coming from! ...it is just two differnet ways of looking at things? Not bad, just different?
Now I will admit, I see things pretty much just like kpb and lets face it cswilson needs to get a copy of "How to make Friends and Influence People"!...but whatever! He does have a point and it is a very valid one?

[cswilson]

Don't worry fellas I've got lots of friends and influence a few ppeople-kbp's concern for my level of knowledge and financial situation is truly heart warming-kind of makes me feel fuzzy all over. oops got to go hangout with some positive thinkers-can't see any on this thread.