Unabashed Self Promotion!!!

[WilIow-Kreek]

Its Richard Holden..I already gave that in a previous thread.We R-calf supporters are not afraid to use our names.Why should we be.We are PROUD to be honest cattlemen!

[cswilson]

Well Mr. Richard Holden where is your proof that Hereford/Angus baldie is less fertile and milks less than a straight Angus. Not knocking the breeds but most order buyers don't jump to the front when Salers calves hit the ring. I want documented proof not the R-Calf twist and wiggle change the facts proof.

[grassfarmer]

Willow Kreek, Those Saler cattle make fair steeplechasers I bet your jackass has a job keeping up to them.

[WilIow-Kreek]

In a presentation at the Stock show in Denver a few years back one of the keynote speakers stated that crossbreeding with Herfords while initally benefitting from hybrid vigor would soonafter cause at least a 10%drop in fertility and probably a 12-15% drop in milk.Our family used to raise Herefords and I could not argue with his statements.
It seemed strange to me at the time none of the Hereford breeders that were there (and there were quite a few I recognized)challenged his statements.I even saw a few of them nodding in agreement.
I don't remember his name but I believe he was an Animal science professor at the University of Oklahoma.

[cswilson]

That sounds like a typical R-Calf arguement-facts from somewhere by somebody whose name you don't remember.I'll go with the anecdotal evidence of 1,000's of ranchers who've paid the mortgage and put the kids through college running baldy cows. It was a good try though your R-Klansmen will be proud of you.

[WilIow-Kreek]

You just don't want to hear the truth.I keep telling you its not the baldy cow that I'm talking about its Herfords.They are being made to look good by the other breed in the mix.You would get way better results with Charolais,Gelbvieh,Simmentals etc.(I prefer Salers)And sorry if I don't remember the name of everyone I ever listened to in my entire life.I told you when and where....just don't know the mans name.

[cswilson]

Your a funny guy Ricky-and where did you hear this presentation-it's not beyond the realm of possibility you got B'S'ed at the Denver Stock Show-you wouldn't be the first or last. So I take it you won't be using my wee bully lol.

[WilIow-Kreek]

Actually I may just use him!!I have quite a few cows that have way too much milk,they are way to fertile and I can't keep the buyers away.He should solve all those problems nicely.

[cswilson]

Go for it!!!