More POST feedban BSE

[Willowcreek]

CattleNetwork_Today 2/7/2007 5:47:00 PM


Cattle Alert: BSE Confirmed In Alberta, Canada

OTTAWA, February 7, 2007 - The Canadian Food Inspection Agency (CFIA) has confirmed the diagnosis of bovine spongiform encephalopathy (BSE) in a mature bull from Alberta. The animal's carcass is under CFIA control, and no part of it entered the human food or animal feed systems.

Preliminary information indicates that the age of the animal falls well within the age range of previous cases detected in Canada under the national BSE surveillance program. This signifies that the animal was exposed to a very small amount of infective material, most likely during its first year of life.

An epidemiological investigation directed by international guidelines is underway to examine what the animal was fed early in its life and to identify its herdmates at the time. All findings will be publicly released once the investigation concludes.

Under Canada's enhanced feed ban, which comes into effect on July 12, 2007, BSE should be eliminated from the national cattle herd within approximately 10 years. The CFIA expects the periodic detection of a limited number of cases to continue as the level of BSE continues to decline.

http://www.cattlenetwork.com/content.asp?contentid=104342

[farmers_son]

The CFIA link is:

http://www.inspection.gc.ca/english/anima/heasan/disemala/bseesb/ab2007/9notavie.shtml

Willowcreek's post deleted the following portion of the official announcement:

"The finding of a mature animal should not impact Canada's BSE country categorization submission to the World Organization for Animal Health (OIE). The science-based BSE risk-level determination process requires that a country is able to demonstrate a full understanding of the pathways that resulted in BSE exposure and expression, as well as the implementation of appropriate comprehensive measures to block those pathways and protect human and animal health, leading to the eradication of the disease over time.

The animal was identified at the farm level by the national surveillance program, which has detected all cases found in Canada. The program targets the highest risk cattle populations and has tested roughly 150,000 animals since 2003. The surveillance results reflect an extremely low incidence of BSE in Canada."

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Nowhere is it suggested that this animal contracted BSE post feedban, although I am sure R-Calfers are hoping it did. Really this should be a non event but politics being what they are we will have to wait and see.

[whiteface]

Much appreciate that you would keep us all informed, Willow.
More appreciation to f-s for makeing sure we got the "whole story" instead of just what suited some people. Try not to freeze Willow, can't imagine what we'd talk about without you! Have a safe, hopefully not too cold of an evening all!

[Willowcreek]

Actually it is Manitoba Rancher thats reporting on ranchers.net this is a 2000 model bull that tested BSE positive!!!

Which If so---That would be born after the USDA's proposed Rule 2 March 1999 magic date that they said would be safe to export to the US....

Which means if we had Rule 2 in operation now this bull could have been slaughtered and tested at one of our US Slaughter Plants- accrediting the US with another BSE positive and stalling all export talks for a couple more years, while further damaging domestic confidence and demand.....

Or it could have been slaughtered in one of our US Slaughter Plants- not tested and ended up in hundreds/thousands of pounds of burger meat to be spread thruout the US- with parts ending up in various animal feeds....

[rkaiser]

Your night Willowcreek. Dance around and entertain Cargill and Tyson with your antics. You are the biggest clown on the web.

Can't see anything but your primitive patriotic protectionist agenda,can you? While Cargill and Tyson use your mouth and that of Rcalf to prolong the salmon run and destroy any hope of samll to medium sized packers from making any headway in the Northern United states.

I won't post again Willowcreek. It's your night to shine. Lick those windows on the way home from the bar tonight Oldtimer, maybe you will see the northern lights and you can dream of shooting them down as well.

[mb_rancher]

keep dancing and singing OT!! All I posted on Ranchers was that I heard it was a 2000 model. I heard this through the g**** vine. Chances are the bull is older than that.

[FRENCHMAN]

Ot more heresay once again

[rkaiser]

Hay FRENCHMAN. You just won a million bucks.I think I heard the American company that bought out agriville say that if someone posted at exactly 0:00, they would win a million. Way to go bud!!!

[Willowcreek]

mb_rancher posted Feb 7, 2007 23:09
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quote--"keep dancing and singing OT!! All I posted on Ranchers was that I heard it was a 2000 model. I heard this through the g**** vine. Chances are the bull is older than that."

Now wonder you got so much BSE--Keeping bulls until they are antigues-- 7-9 years old is still POST feedban-- your cattle are so inbred they are probably hatching the virus..LOL


OK-- I get this now-- Canucks can post rumors about Canadian bad news and that is OK---but if an American posts a rumor about Canadian bad news its a No-No and he is chastised...

Sounds about right- coming from a Socialist country that wouldn't know what FAIR trade is if it bit them in the butt...LOL

What a bunch of whiners....

[cowman]

Not sure why this is a surprize? If you run a surveliance program you will probably find them? This is a good thing in the big picture!
Now what the Asians should be asking is this: "HOW COME THE USA ISN"T FINDING ANYMORE BSE CASES?"
The science says they should? Would you be happy buying from a country that is obviously fudging the figures?
Instead of R-CALF and Willowcreek spinning this off as another protectionist thread they should be insisting their government find out the extent of their problem? You can sweep the dirt under the rug but sooner or later it will come back to haunt you?

[farmers_son]

Cowman: That is exactly right.

At the very least the U.S. producer should be thinking that there but for the grace of god goes I. Simple probabilities dictate that the U.S. will soon find their next positive unless there is indeed a coverup.

And although there are protectionists in the United States there needs to be a realization that the U.S. has BSE too. The Americans have a choice. They can take our lastest BSE positive as justification for further delays in normalization of trade in live cattle and beef or they can support the science.

By supporting the science the U.S. not only shows countries who are restricting imports of U.S. beef that a low incidence of BSE is not justification to stop trade when appropriate measure are in place to ensure food safety. But furthermore they reassure their own consumers that the BSE safety measures that are in place in both Canada and the United States ensure food safety and that the situation is well in hand.

[Willowcreek]

farmers_son-- Its pretty easy for you guys to say all that--because you stand all to gain and nothing to lose...But the US stands all to lose- and nothing to gain with opening more trade with Canada...

Its pretty well evident that the other countries of the world- and especially their populations/consumers- follow their own drumbeat and don't follow the "Packer economics" influenced science as pushed by CFIA and USDA...How much beef is Canada actually shipping to Japan? LOL

If this bull had been found in the US we would be getting tagged with number 4- while we've actually only had 2 origin cattle...Anymore consumer perception beats the hell out of science..

Canada needs to go to testing ALL until they get past this epidemic...

[jensend]

with the history of cattle trade between canada and the states the last thing the usa needs is for canada to test everything. every positive canada finds now just erodes american credibility. it doesn't do canada any good either but the rest of the world knows how things work willowcreek. you don't think the japanese are saying, 'well, canada found another; the americans should have found seven.' you can crow over our positives but they are just as detrimental to america as they are to canada. otherwise you'd be sending beef all over the world by now. it seems the usda's coverup isn't working.

[whiteface]

Sure it's working jensend. We all know the U.S. don't have BSE. Which is obvious why they don't find any new cases.
Geeeeez! How slow could we be? Brain froze in the great white north. Have a warm day all! Thanks for reading!

[blackjack]

...some day when our brains unfreeze...lol...some day the cow-calf producer will figure this out when he has time from his new job to reflect back and wonder why...the govt have spent millions of dollars again on ad hoc programs and where are we today...same prices as 03...and yes i do blame govt...but then again they only listened to who they thought were the voice of the industry...