Warning to other parents

[DogPatch]

Kathy.....

How do you decide which report, or "expert" etc to believe? Plus did you really buy/read that book?

[Kathy]

Yes I have this book and I am reading it.

As far as who's research do you trust,,, that takes alot of time, reading, and self-education. Working with other people that are knowledgable, asking questions, comparing notes, paying attention to people around you, attending meetings on such topics as autism, CWD, etc.

You look at everything and make a decision. When the researchers have science that fails to answer basic questions, you keep that in mind... when an answer comes to light that is relevant to other areas, you keep that in mind....

Informed consent implies you have made an attempt to inform yourself - and the public health authorities have to provide you with information too.

Signing a consent based on no or little knowledge, or a tiny pamphlet stating everything will be OK, adverse reactions are rare, it will never happen to you - doesn't cut it!

I have to read alot of papers (hundreds) to become informed. The pharmaceutical industry cannot be trusted... there is too much money at stake. Doctors sitting on advisory panels for vaccination schedules are often in conflict of interest (hold patents on vaccines, worked for the Pharm co. in the past, rely on corp. funding for research, etc...)

Knowing your history is also important. Medical schools are not providing a true account of medical history and disease. When doctors become informed on these topics, many of them become vocal to try to inform others. At this time, they are discredited and the messanger is attacked - the message isn't debated because that would draw too much attention to the details.

[Kathy]

wilagro, I have no problem with you or anyone else taking the vaccines... I will not accept anybody telling me I HAVE TO take them, or anybody else HAS to.

People have a god given right to control their health and what goes into their own bodies, and their minor children's bodies. Too much talk about forcing vaccines. As far as the media is concerned... we must be watching different stations... our TV stations can't fear-monger enough.

If you pay attention to their common talking point... "the best protection is vaccination".... you'll hear this said over and over and over again.

BUll! Your best protection is a functioning, healthy immune system. If you inject foreign material and toxins directly into your blood stream/muscle... by-passing all the preliminary modes of immunity and natural protection... you are actually poisoning your blood.

[Kathy]

Here are the dates and times for some important vaccine safety meetings with Mary Tocco and Dr. Andrew Moulden:

October 19, 2009 -Monday 6:30 - 9:30 PM- GRAND PRAIRIE, Alberta,
Mary Tocco, "Are Vaccines Safe? And Dr. Andrew Moulden "Tolerance Lost" -All Vaccines lead to Stroke. Location: Five-Mile Hall, Grand Prairie Alberta, Canada. For reservations and information call 780-357-0705 or email Shannon at shanie420@yahoo.cm


October 21, 2009 - Wednesday 7:00-10:00pm - RED DEER, Alberta
Mary Tocco, "Are Vaccines Safe? And Dr. Andrew Moulden "Tolerance Lost" All Vaccines lead to Stroke. Location: Crossroads Church 32 Avenue and Highway #2. For information and reservations contact Bea at 403-342-6206. Or beacares@shaw.ca


October 22, 2009 - Thursday 7:00-10:00pm- EDMONTON, Alberta
Mary Tocco, "Are Vaccines Safe? And Dr. Andrew Moulden "Tolerance Lost" All Vaccines lead to Stroke. Location Green Wood Inn and Conference Center 4485 Gateway Blvd. Call John at 780-432-5464 for reservations and information. John@optimumhealthvitamins.com

[tman]

Wow, I never thought I'd come across someone making reference to Dr Joseph Mercola on here. I'm pleasantly surprised. As for the controversy with vaccines, there's always risks in anything. So is the (potentially increased) risk of getting the flu from not getting the vaccine greater than the potential risks of detrimental effects from the vaccine itself. As for who do you trust, I also think you need to make your own decision after doing some research. As for me, Dr. Mercola makes sense just like how Bud Williams' stuff makes sense to me. But unfortunately, from my experience I'm of the minority, in both cases.

It's real good to see a conversation about this no matter what side you're on. That's what makes a democracy so great, isn't it...



Until someone speaks too loudly for too long.

[coppertop]

Many nurses and other front line health
workers in Great Britain are refusing to
get vaccinated.

[Kathy]

Over 300 people attended the Red Deer Meeting with Dr. Andrew Moulden and Mary Tocco as guest speakers. Yes, they were our guests, who came at our local request. They were paid for their efforts; but, "THEY" did not charge 25 dollars per person - the local organizers charged this because there are many expenses with organizing such an event, including renting the building, printing costs, advertising etc. The media purposefully made a big deal out of the $25 dollar charge, and failed in reporting any related information to their listeners. The media message is extremely biased! [go figure]

After Wednesdays meeting, I will not look at anyones face without looking for the signs of "stroke", especially childrens'. Dr. Moulden has very ingeniously developed a method of identifying brain damage induced by vaccine injury.

I must encourage everyone to personally attend the Calgary meeting tonight, this Friday October 23 at Fort Calgary, lecture starts 7 pm.

Instead of listening to the people who are insanely frightened of learning about these medical findings, go see and hear about them first hand.

I have seen message board postings and CBC, CTV broadcasts and articles that pull every trick in the books to discredit these sincere people. It is a sad state of affairs.

Unfortunately for the vaccine industry, Dr. Moulden's work will open wide the doors for parents to prove brain injury from these innoculations; maybe this is one reason why the Canadian and USA governments are so eager to cover the liability issues on behalf of the manufacturers. By the way these vaccines aren't "free" we paid for them with our taxes.

I found a good article about how the CDC, NIH, and the pharmaceutical corps. met in 2000 at a private invite only meeting to discuss Autism and the Thimerosal (mercury) connection...I have read about it before, and recommend this article:
"Deadly Immunizations" by Robert F. Kennedy Jr. It sticks to the facts documented from freedom of information documents and memos, etc.

The larger media corporations have demonstrated they are unprofessional hacks for their owners and government task-masters. One UofC professor made the statement on CBC's the Eye Opener that ALUM is not aluminum. Excuse me! It is an aluminum based molecule; how stupid does he think we are?

If you can make it to Calgary tonight for Dr. Moulden's lecture (Mary Tocco will not be there) please do. Dr. Moulden will have even more time than he had last evening to explain his new extra-ordinary findings. Don't expect to learn about it from the media!

[Kathy]

I have heard that the "vaccine clarity" meeting in Calgary tonight is be sold out. I wouldn't doubt it as over 500 people attended the Edmonton meeting, and Fort Calgary's facilities are not that big.

Perhaps the Calgary organizers will have moved the meeting to a larger facility???? I don't have a clue what's actually up. I'm just glad to see interest in the topic. Dr. Moulden does have a web-site where you can go to learn more. He also has some video presentations offered there - for a donation, I believe:

www.brainguardmd.com

The Kennedy article in the rolling stones magazine is actually titled, "Deadly Immunity"

[Kathy]

Thought I'd share a natural medicinal alternative that seems to help ward off the bugs, and helps quicken recovery (at least I've seen it work). It may even be helpful with this H1N1 thing.

Coconut Oil and Oregano Oil.

Since the oregano oil is disgusting to take internally, (I don't know how some people do it)... I use it with coconut oil on the bottom of my feet.

First slather your feet with the virgin coconut oil (it melts upon contact with your body heat). Then drip 5-6 drops of some oregano oil (preferrably premixed with olive oil) on your soles and smear it around with a Q-tip (so as not to get it on your fingers. This is so you don't get it into your eyes if you rub your face with your hands.)

In a few minutes you will taste oregano oil in your mouth, proving that the combo is transporting the active ingredients everywhere in your body through your lymphatic system and possibly even your blood.

I have used this combo to get rid of my cold-sores on my lips. First treat the area with the oregano oil, and let it burn for a minute - then smear on the coconut oil and the burning goes away instantly. Coconut oil and oregano oil have known ant-viral and anti-bacterial activity. Use coconut oil on your skin, its great.

Gargle with hot water with some salt and baking soda, if you have a sore throat. Eat very well, cut back sugar big time, and get lots of sleep.

I hope this helps you and your family to keep health, or recover faster.

With Halloween next weekend, I suggest you create a new family tradition: no candy.... try popcorn instead (cooked in coconut oil), or other healthy treats (low in sugar)... and stay the heck away for aspartame, MSG and other artificial sugars (they over-stimulate your microglia in the brain and likely aid in the spread of virus particles to the brain.)

Coconut oil and oregano oil, give it a try!!

[Kathy]

I learned this late last night:

According to this Public Health Agency of Canada website, the non-adjuvanted vaccine [ie: the H1N1 vaccine without the ASO3 (otherwise known as squalene-oil-water adjuvant)] WILL CONTAIN TEN (10) TIMES THE AMOUNT OF THIMEROSAL AS FOUND IN THE ADJUVANTED VACCINE presently being distributed. That's 50 micrograms instead of 5 micrograms. Thimerosal contains roughly 50% ethyl mercury. This, they want to give to young kids and pregnant women.

The excuse for this allowable mercury in the vaccine, is that it is different from the mercury you get in food, like tuna fish; and, it amounts to less than the daily allowable limit (from food).

I suggest anybody who wants to learn more about how the type of mercury in Thimerosal is more toxic than the mercury from consuming fish, please read the book "Evidence of Harm" by David Kirby.

By the way, when you eat the fish, you only absorb a very small portion of the mercury. When you inject it into your muscle - of course, you have absorbed 100% of the dose.

http://www.phac-aspc.gc.ca/alert-alerte/h1n1/faq_rg_h1n1-eng.php#auvr

"Q4. Is it true that there is mercury in the vaccine? How much mercury?
Both vaccines contain a small amount of thimerosal. Thimerosal is a form of mercury used in the H1N1 flu vaccine to stabilize it and maintain its quality during storage. Thimerosal is a different form of mercury than the mercury known to cause health problems. The amount in the H1N1 adjuvanted flu vaccine is much less than the daily limit recommended for environmental exposure to mercury. For example, there is significantly less mercury in the vaccine than you would find in a can of tuna fish.

Q5. Is it true that there is 10 times more mercury in the unadjuvanted vaccine? How can that be safe for pregnant women?

Yes, the unadjuvanted vaccine does contain 50 ug of thimerosal while the adjuvanted vaccine has only 5 ug of thimerosal. The 50 ug remains within the daily limit recommended for environmental exposure to mercury. There’s significantly less mercury in the vaccine than you would find in a can of tuna fish."


Environmental exposure!!! Injecting this stuff is not environmental exposure, it is a medical procedure!