Compendium of CWB *****s That should Be Remembered

[oneoff]

Lets start a list of the really unfair and stupid and ignorant and hurtful things the CWB has imposed on Western Canadian farmers. The rules are: Only one comment per post

For example Re Grain Flo (complements "bucket"). "If you signed a canola contract for march delivery - you know that's when you will deliver. All producers have equal opportunity for that window - not just for first 5 minutes of October 1. "

[oneoff]

And then there is the CWB Weatherbug business.
The manufacturer of the hardware and software is Davis who has many retailers (who sell the base package for $595 US or much less (Vantage Pro2 6152)). There are a couple extras in the CWB kit to publish the recognized spyware to the internet, and overal the CWB package certainly isnt the cheapest.
Where the CWB really tries to hose users is by charging for access to something that should be; and is available for free. This is straight from the CWB web pages.

"Access to the weather centre, through CWB e-Services at www.cwb.ca, is available for a subscription of $99 per year for farmers with a CWB weather station and $199 a year for those without. ....

With a worldwide network of weather sensors, WeatherBug Tracking Stations and cameras, WeatherBug maintains the largest exclusive weather network in the world. The weather-tracking stations are wireless and solar-powered and require a high-speed Internet connection. They measure wind speed and direction, humidity, precipitation, temperature, barometric pressure and dew point. The general public can access live, local weather information and forecasts through the WeatherBug Web site at http://weather.ca.weatherbug.com .

..... Controlled by western Canadian farmers, the CWB is the largest wheat and barley marketer in the world. One of Canada’s biggest exporters, the Winnipeg-based organization sells grain to over 70 countries and returns all sales revenue, less marketing costs, to farmers."


You can bet the CWB is monitoring all this weather data (which is another topic REMEMBER THE RULES); and it will be done though the Weatherbug archive at

http://professionalportal.weatherbug.com/Login.aspx

Username "Canola" Password "Grower"

Thankyou Canola Council of Canada. Guess what I think of the CWB in regards to my funding a weather gathering system though the CWB; using my internet bandwidth and then having the nerve to try to charge everyone $199 per year on top of it all.

[oneoff]

An through the magic of the search enine we find a concise summary of an injustice that should keep CWB directors from sleeping at night


TOM4CWB posted Apr 19, 2008 19:33
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Dear Vader;

I this a very interesting issue... thanks for offering you thoughts:

1. Pedigreed Seed for planting purposes gets a 'No Cost' export license... Common Seed graded by exactly the seeds Act... for planting... must pay the 'Buy Back'.

2. Manufactured Feed made out of 100% wheat and barley get a no-cost export license... feed barley and wheat must pay the 'buy-back.

3. Organic Wheat and barley used for human consumption... pays $3.32/t for an export license... while at the same time the CWB asked me for over $500/t.

Vader, 20 years ago... before Goodale and the fusarium problem in Manitoba embarrassed the Prairie Pools (CDN Fusarium infested wheat was worth more in the US than the CWB and Pools paid for top quality milling wheat)... we as 'designated area' growers were allowed to export... without buybacks to the CWB...

[oneoff]

And then there was Vaders rant against large greedy durum producers. Vader really was/is a CWB director; as proven by directly asking him; which he certainly didn't deny shortly after posting his offensive comments. The original post just now escapes me; and apparently was deleted from the agriville archives. Don't worry; I have a copy somewhere and hope someone else can save me the work of finding this classic.

[oneoff]

In the ITS ONLY MONEY AND IT HAPPENS EVERY YEAR CATEGORY

In 2008/09, CWB officials elected to accept only 74% of durum wheat offered by prairie farmers, forcing them to carry over 26% of their durum supplies to this crop year or to sell into the much lower priced feed market.

The CWB's latest Pool Return Outlook, released today, is projecting a final return of $4.62 per bushel for #1 durum wheat (13.0% protein) for the 2009/10 crop year, basis Saskatchewan. This compares to a projected final return of $8.47 per bushel in the 2008/09 crop year.

According to Agriculture Canada, durum yields across the prairies in 2008 averaged 34 bushels per acre. This means that the CWB's decision to hold back durum sales will end up costing prairie farmers $34 per acre (34 bushels/acre x $3.85 x 26%) or a loss of more than $200 million on a prairie-wide basis (6 million durum acres in 2008 @ $34 per acre), excluding storage and interests costs.

What's worse is that the CWB's monopoly did not generate higher returns for western Canadian farmers in the 2008/09 crop year. While Saskatchewan durum growers can expect to receive $8.47 per bushel for last year's crop, the prices received by Montana durum growers over the same time period averaged Cdn $9.29 per bushel for the same quality durum (#1, 13% protein). Moreover, Montana farmers were able to receive all of their money upfront, whereas Canadian farmers will have to wait until December to receive full payment for their 2008/09 deliveries and December 2010 for the 26% carried over into this crop year.

"Where's the CWB's single desk premium?" asks Stephen Vandervalk, Alberta Vice President of the Wheat Growers. "Not only do we get a lower price, but we end up incurring higher storage and interest costs. On top of that, we've lost a ton of money on the durum we involuntarily carried over into this crop year."

[oneoff]

Been loking for some Vader posts that have gone missing from the agriville archives over the years. Any chance that something like "Out of respect for ------ censonship was used in these cases". would explain the missing posts. The archives do show that this has been insinuated in the past. Such things disturb me.

[oneoff]

There always should be a category for IF I TOLD YOU: YOU WOULD NOT BELIEVE IT.
Registered seed growers have a special status with the CWB in regards the sale of seed. Hopefully no one can diasagree with that. Consider that in rare times when all wheat is worth big bucks (as in a couple of years ago); that unsold Canadian registered or certified seed could be be sold to a US farmer for more money than it was possible to expect from selling into the CWB system. Its possible the American farmer had no intention to use it for seed; and could sell it though US elevators and make good money on the transaction.
So the Canadian seed grower wins; and why wouldn't he remain a strong CWB supporter. The US farmer was happy; and couldn't lose. The CWB probably wouldn't do anything; because such things are best swept under the rug; and they'd just lose another strong supporter.
Still it doesn't seem right; or maybe its a lot worse than that; and maybe even reason enough to get the CWB off Western Canadian Farmer's backs permanently.

[bucket]

The 26% carry over of durum. The first thing the cwb has to do when figuring their imaginary premium is this. Take the 26% and times it by the loss on the carry to the 09/10 year and factor it into the 09/10 pricing.

So lets say you grow 10000 bushels of durum. 2600 bu is left over - times that by a 2 buck loss at a minimum that is a 5200 buck loss. On 10000 bushels thats a 52 cent per bushel loss off the current pricing. Then Mr. Hill can start squawking about what the current price is.

What really pisses me off is farmers pay dearly for cwb staff to figure if it would be better to accept 100% and lower the price by 25cents a bushel or force them to carry and take a 2-3 dollar loss on the next crop year. Its not rocket science.

But I think the real reason they didn't accept the durum in the 08-09 year is because most farmers over contract and they don't know whats out there for durum stocks. Too many farmers would have been caught on not being able to deliver. Then what would the cwb do. They got caught short wheat not to long ago. Cost hundreds of millions.

[bucket]

Compendium - a short summary of the main points or ideas of a larger work.

Sorry, I had to look that monster word up. For clarity only - not to be sarcastic.

[bucket]

Vader aka Rocking Roddy Flaman gave up posting. Maybe a good thing, although, for a wanna be politician he never quit putting his foot in his mouth. It was priceless.

I would say he would top the list for being a *****/prick though.

[bucket]

How about the millions the cwb spent on lawsuits against the conservative government only to find out they are not above the government. Just wish the government had the backbone they were elected to have.

Made for a great relationship. The sad part is most of the directors were/are daddy's little boys and carried that into the board room. They didn't realize the government wanted to wean them and have the cwb grow up.

[dirtgirl]

Please someone find Vader's post about durum producers. I have often thought about that post and wish I had printed it off.

How about the last year of the DPC when 2 guys were able to sign up 25% of the available tons?

[bucket]

If you go to the bottom of this page and press search, then put durum in the search, discussion forums, and ALL. Its item 87 - farmers making millions and millions.

I don't know how to link it into the thread but everyone should read this from time to time just to make the blood boil. It might loosen some colestrol.

[checking]

Oneoff - your Oct 04, 2009, 5:58 post. It happened, at least once. I know the registered seed grower, know who the U.S. farmer was that bought the entire Barrie wheat production of the seed grower, and know the U.S. elevator it was delivered to. Sweet deal all around. Nothing underhanded here. Just the fairness system working its magic at the CWB.

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