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    Why EU Triffid Flax Trade Barriers ?

    Continuation from the other thread.

    Well, I'm a little greener than usual behind the ears this morning,so go easy on me.

    Here's what you say:
    "wow, pars you are a little green behind the ears there if you really believe PR will fix the problem with the EU.

    We need our scientists, exports etc. etc. to stand up to the illogical and twisted political gamesmanship that certain EU countries are playing....this is not about consumers but about trade barriers.

    why didn't the EU approve Triffid Flax??....thats the real question (one you haven't yet asked)....is there a food safety issue we should know about???"



    Okay cowboy, you want to line up scientists, who are often supported by taxpayers' grant money to go to Europe to square off with their peers, and give presentations about proteomes, etc. that provide evidence that the mathematical equations implemented that verify, lets pick one area, say, "occurence" are within the scientific measurable boundaries commonly agreed upon, but not in all instances. By all countries.

    Uh huh.


    And then do you want the scientists to have a press conference on the steps of the WTO press mound, mumbling away, as most scientists do, btw, I've got one in the family, until you offer to take them out for a lobster dinner to shut them up?

    Lawsey.

    These are governmental political organizations, and the government gets the final say! Not scientific ones.

    We have an Ag Minister who's government policy was to open wheat marketing, but he got outfoxed by the Board itself.

    Larry Hill t****sed up and down Canadian voter constituences via pr messages online, in papers, in parliamenet, through Wayne Easter, and essentially out-pr'ed the government!

    By the time Ritz got to Geneva, if he even goes, he's scared to pop a fluffy in public bathrooms, for fear voters back home will hear or smell him.

    All the lawyers in the world couldn't outalk that kind of propganda, nor can scientists.

    And who gets the final word? The governments!

    What was effective, was the Western Barley Growers' FARMERS heading down.
    Only thing is they should have demanded time to be heard, and not allowed themselves to be closed off in some sideroom.(Marginalized in waiting.) Held their own press conferences. Hired someone to interpret.

    The Dairy people live in Geneva's offices. Learn something.

    It's called politicking. Pars

    #2
    DanHenry33

    Triffid in EU

    1. The EU consumer who eats the flax does not think Triffid is safe.

    2.If you are a EU politician, you do not tick off voters.You make regulations.

    3. 70-80% of Canadian flax is sold in the EU.

    Hard to understand?

    Zaph suggests solving the lost market problem by dumping the EU market and start up a Canadian linoleum business. State run? Or do you prefer Monsanto owned? Pars

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      #3
      Don't wear your farmer's hat. Wear your consumer's hat when you answer this
      <p></p>
      <p class="EC_style8ptBK"><strong><a href="http://parsleysnotebook.blogspot.com">(GM food poll)</a></strong></p>

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        #4
        http://www.spyble.com/

        Two questions for you Pars:

        1) Based on the geographic visitors over the past 30 days at Parsley's Notebook, who is PN educating - Canadians or Europeans?

        This is a one word answer; Canadians or Europeans - don't need a soliloquy.

        2) Based on current web stats at PN, is PN helping getting western Canadian farmer's flax moving?

        One word answer; Yes or No - again, don't need a soliloquy.

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          #5
          1. Neither.
          2. I have no influence

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            #6
            What percent has your European audience grown over the past 30 days at PN?

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              #7
              btw, I have not done the usual linking. Or blogstering things. Or advertising. I didn't want to be bothered with any of them, because I don't write or make comments designed to increase visits. I didn't on agriville, either.

              I write what I see.

              In fact, I probably lose visitors because of comments.

              My blog doesn't make me ANY money if that is what you are getting at.

              Neither did fighting with the CWB.

              Much to the contrary. Pars

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                #8
                I don't know, Weber. I will be honest....and I know you will think I am really really stupid, and I know I should, but I don't actually do any percentages. Ever.

                I admit I am kinda interested in the Swedish visitors. I may bring up my map of visitors once a week, and glance, and I will zero in on the Swedes, but the rest I just do a glance

                I have never done percentages.

                The world map of hits comes from all over. I did notice South Korea on quite a bit last month. And Brazil.

                But I didn't zero in the cities.

                It wouldn't make any difference to what I write.

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                  #9
                  From your comments.

                  Point 1. The EU consumer who eats the flax does not think Triffid is safe.
                  - The average European consumer likely doesn't know what Triffid flax
                  is. They have concerns about genetically engineered crops as
                  group/scientific process. They also eat livestock that have been fed
                  genetically engineered crops (soybean meal). Soybean meal has been
                  moved through the European regulatory system and approved. If Canada
                  had followed this regulatory process on Triffid, flax meal would have no
                  problem in Europe - same as soybean meal.

                  2.If you are a EU politician, you do not tick off voters. You make
                  regulations. - You are right. It is about regulations and the breaking of
                  rules. Countries have that right on behalf of consumers. On the other
                  hand, European regulators have to be able to demonstrate their
                  processes are strong and science based. Otherwise it will be open
                  season and subject to a lot of frivolous non tariff barriers that can work
                  both ways.

                  3. 70-80% of Canadian flax is sold in the EU. - Of the flax exported to
                  Europe what percent is industrial/livestock feed and what percent is
                  human food? Perhaps others have the numbers but I would be curious
                  as to what percent of European flax imports are used in linoil/livestock
                  feed versus direct human consumption. Googled/other tools and haven't
                  been able to find the answer.

                  I eat flaxseed in my morning hot cereal. Does the risk of potentially
                  eating triffid flax out way the health benefits including things like Omega
                  3 in flaxseed in a diet?

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                    #10
                    These are the countries so far today:

                    United Kingdom
                    United States
                    Portugal
                    India
                    Australia
                    Sweden
                    Serbia
                    Japan
                    Germany
                    Canada...even got some Maritimers on today. I've never noticed a lot of them before, but then I don't spend a lot of time on Stats.I find it hard just to keep up commenting. pars

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