Is the mustard market drop because of EU GM issues?

[haveapulse]

We have handed over grain decisions to those who do not suffer from stoppage... yup your right Pars we do not have an accountable method of priorizing and solving problems in ag and sometimes this just creates cracks in the system that we can plough thourh this time it could be a crevace.

We need an DART team for ag policy. A think tank of business minds not just bureaucrats. A team targeted at short and long term solutions not solutions that take long term and become redundant by the time they are implemented.


While for those of us who are comfortable with GMO it seems to be a tempest is a tea pot, the reality if our rank as a supplier to the world is taking a beating and this is serious to our business long term.

At least on the Titanic they had music.. could somebody please take Ritz a violin.

[Hopperbin]

Parsley the only reason an organic producer would grow clearfield mustard would be for the chemical controle which they claim they do not use. Why would you say your customers think it would be GM?

[Hopperbin]

Ritz a violin LOL. Parsley I am just questioning the organic industry your involved in, I believe that is OK as your own website is based on having an expression of opinion.

[parsley]

I meant that although Dave doesn't consider Clearfield GM, nor does the Canola Commission,( although the Government treats it as a biotech crop, and has to jump all the GM hoops,) actuallly organic growers DO consider it a GM crop.

And I do not want to leave the impression that Parsley considers Clearfield a NON-GM seed.

It is GM

Lawsey. Pars

[ColevilleH2S]

So Pars what would you have us do? Go to Brussels and unfurl a giant banner on the EU parliament building? Or have a sit-in at Rewe's headquarters?

[parsley]

Hopper,

All of us, organic and conventional, will have problem getting product into the EU from now on, imho, because Canada is not only percieved as a GM experimental nest, (for Nettie Fry's sake, we carried out twelve mustard trials) BUT the trade has been sloppy, imho.

And so have farmers.

Now that sort of talk is bound to get me slammed, but the stores aren't happy with me for pointing out that farmers will pay for their IP system at their tills, either, but I get paid the same whether I write pro or con.

$0.00

Information is worth money. So I write what i notice and see.You may not always like it.

I don't want farmers footing the bloody bill for everything.

Pars

[parsley]

Coleville,

Wrap yourself in it, nude, and THEN unfurl it. Beingst how hardy Canadian men are viewed throughout the world, it's bound to be more effective than what has been. Pars

[ColevilleH2S]

According to this guy from Greenpeace Germany, Mutigenises is not GMO.

Here's the quote;
"Alexander Hissting, agricultural expert for Greenpeace Germany, which is vehemently opposed to GM crops, says the organisation is not opposed to plants developed using directed mutagenesis, but will not promote it. 'It is not going in the direction we favour for sustainable agriculture, [we believe] the future of agriculture is not industrial agriculture, but local, small-scale agriculture,' he says."

Here's the website;
http://www.public.iastate.edu/~nscentral/mr/09/0206/canola.html

But this clearfield thing has got us off on a tangent the real issue is GT73.

[ColevilleH2S]

Oops I should have said the "ALLEGED" issue is GT73.

Pars, your banner thing is probably not a good idea. Even if it had me ROTFLMAO.

[Hopperbin]

Parsley do you actually sell small grains?
You should be bragging about our clean air environment that our crops are grown in, we are what we eat and also plants are what they eat, clean water from the sky, not poison from some river system or from Chinese polution. I can remember my old neighbor yapping about how he waited for a big wind and dusted his whole quarter section from one side plus destoyed all the local town gardens. And laughed at how the town people were talking about how their gardens died. Were probably still suffering cancer from them days. That is not agriculture today. We use gps and any chemicals we put on are put on more precisely and with less evaporation to the air.

[parsley]

I appreciate your comments haveapulse.

A working group who want to actually MARKET is extremely important. The key. Why not form one on AV?

1. Varied players. And ask people who get things done.

2. Need a farm voice. But a stong one. Not somebody that will cave because they are scared to piss off the trade.

3.Need people who want things to run as efficiently as possible in the cheapest way.

4. Need to consider all views. Organic and conventional. You can alienate the likes of Greenpeace or try and work them in. Work on good will. Throw 'them' and 'us' out the door.

5. Segregation is one area that begs attention.

Someone else add ideas. pars

[parsley]

Correct.
GT73 is the cross to bear.

Perceived or real.

It hurts both organic and conventional.
Capice?

Segregation, if sincere and planned, should soothe both.
Pars